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Buying Legal Pot Will Get You On The Federal Database

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Reptile, Nov 17, 2018.

  1. Woodsy

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    Duuuudddde. If you smoked and bought at anytime and didn’t say you did then you violated federal law. It’s really clear.
     

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    My example was not using not using in 2016 when the form was signed, but to start using in 2019, like I said the form is not a contract
     
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    Sure ok your right
     
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    Quite correct, but you can never buy another gun without committing perjury.
     
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    I talked a co-worker out of getting a card for that reason. He keeps saying he will go get his LTC.
     
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    I'm sure the scanner will not store any information. But where will it send that information?

    That info will get stored, just not in the scanners internal memory.

    So, the spokesperson wasnt lying.
     
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    Correct

    You would have to use the black market for your firearms purchases... oh the irony [laugh]
     
  9. smokey-seven

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    After personally investigating different scanners, they all store the data scanned. Where it goes from there is the question.
     
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    He saw the crash about to happen and he wanted to anesthetize himself before he hit it. I mean after he hit it. Oh hell, you know what I mean.
     
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    I called Sanctuary in Gardner MA regarding their policy on showing ID to make a purchase. They said scanning ID is company policy, but the data "doesn't go anywhere". The clerk followed up by saying "We do have a thumb drive that the ID data will save to in the event the PD accuses us of selling to someone under 21." This is the first place I've heard of that has actually confirmed they save the data!

    All it would take to get the info on anyone who's ever shopped there would be a cop saying "Hey. I think you sold pot to a minor last week", which is pretty disturbing, but not surprising. It would be pretty easy for the PD to check the scanned information against LTC holders!
     
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    Pay your deadbeat friend to buy for you, easy solution.
     
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    I'd love for that bill to pass, not only because it's the next best thing to removing weed from the CSA (or better repealing CSA altogether), but because it is customary for the bill's sponsors to be present when Trump signs and you know it would be the best opportunity for Trump to call Warren Pocahontas to her face.
     
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    NHTSA approved standardized field sobriety tests are the linchpin. That happens, you’ll see legalization real fast.

    NB: My own OPINION is that it should be legalized right now. But my rational presumption, or assumption, whatever TF, is that FST’s are the key to it.
     
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    Not never. The form asks is you ARE not if you ever WERE. This is why federal agents who admit to MJ use years age are not disqualified from hiring as PPs.
     
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    Oh....after so many years we now have the pleasure of seeing and hearing the word bong on the news as though it were an everyday household gadget. Smoke a bong while driving and you should not be able to get a permit to do much of anything. We are f...kin doomed. He said he was out of it after taking hit from bong. NO, he was out of it before he took the hit from his friggin bong.
     
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    NH House, 4/4/19, on HB481, the legalization bill. Rep. Chris True expounds at length about why he favors legalization, but then comes down to this final bit about why he doesn't support the bill:

     
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    Hmmmm... so if you were stoned yesterday you answer no? I guess it all depends on your definition of, "are" is.
     
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    Yup. But I think it’s fairly safe to say that if you could piss hot on a drug test, the answer is yes, you “are”. Another test could be if you already plan to use again in the future.
     
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    Urine goes back 30 days. Head hair goes back 90 days. Body hair goes back more than 90 days.

    So to legally answer no on a fed form you need to be 4+ months clean.
     
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    Or at least squeaky clean and freshly Nair'd.

    That said, despite the 2011 "ATF Open Letter", so far the only case law we have is Wilson v. Lynch, which is more about 18 U.S.C. §922(d)(3) (dealer cannot deliver) than about 18 USC § 922(g)(3) (buyer cannot possess).
     
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    Puts all the High Albedo NESers in a new light...
     
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