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Buying guns out of state.

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What States are the best for going to and buying handguns? Any one here ever buy a hand gun in a dealers outside of Ma. and bring it back? I see that A G Gunshop in Lowell has a store in N.H. . On their web site it states this. A.G. Guns & Ammo wants to remind those other than Massachusetts residents that all manufacturors firearms are available through A.G. Guns & Ammo, North - Milford, N.H. They give a 10% over invoice price if you call their Lowell store and pay by phone then pick it up the next day. So evidently they won't sell you a hand gun from their N.H. store. So are we restricted to just buying from private parties in other states in person?
 
As per Fed Law - you cannot cash and carry handguns from an out of state dealer. Any interstate purchases must be tranaferred via an FFL in your state.
 
Any handgun purchase from one state to another per Federal law must go through a FFL dealer in the buyes state of residancy. Holds for a purchse froma dealer or a private sale from a non-dealer.
 
You cannot buy from a private individual in another state if you are not an FFL, as has already been posted here. Most dealers in NH will let you know what guns they can transfer into MA, however, the selection of guns they have available will probably be limited. We have our <cough> lovely AG to thank for that. For those of you not in MA, your lucky. Our esteemed AG has determined that guns without hidden serial numbers might just kill us accidently, (I kid you not) along with other "Consumer Protection" garbage. Pardon me whist I go puke now. ...have I mentioned recently I hate this state??
 
As people have correctly stated, you can only (legally) purchase a handgun within your own state of residence. There is, however, a provision in federal law that recognizes that someone can be a resident of different states at different times of the year. Just renting a place for a few weeks during the summer won't do it, but owning a vacation property and living there for an "extended" period of time will. The problem with this tends to be finding a firearm dealer who's sufficiently knowledgible about the federal regs and willing to believe that you're really a resident. You'll usually need utility bills, tax bills or similar stuff to back up your assertion. I do happen to know a couple of dealers in southern NH who fit the bill in case anyone decides to make use of the provision. [Note: while you'll need to file FA-10s when you once again become a MA resident, this would seem to provide an end run around the AG's desire to "protect" us from the unscrupulous practices of those nasty gun dealers and manufacturers who want to sell us "unsafe" guns, like Wilson Combat 1911s or *gasp* FseveNs.]

Ken
 
Tony, it's a common misconception.

Fed law changed in ~1986 to allow long arms purchases in any of the 50 states and territories (if legal in both seller and buyer states) as long as it was done IN PERSON from an FFL.

Fed Law has PROHIBITED purchase of handguns in ANY state except your state of residence! I think this law went into effect in 1968, but I am not positive of the date.
 
Back in those days, the gun control activity was focused on handguns (Sat Night Specials and other buzzwords) as "weapons of choice by criminals", so they were more concerned about tightly controlling all sales/transfers of handguns.

In the early 1990s, when the anti-RKBA forces lost traction on their anti-handgun campaigns, they switched strategies to demonize those nasty military looking guns (so called "AWB") and their evil bayonets/flashhiders and coined their terminology accordingly.

It's all BS, but it is Law!
 
Oh, I understand but it still doesn't make any sense. Once you get past the Ten Commandmants and the Bill of Rights, the rest is pretty much just psycho-babble.
 
Oh, I understand but it still doesn't make any sense. Once you get past the Ten Commandmants and the Bill of Rights, the rest is pretty much just psycho-babble.

I think that it was Werner Heisenberg who originally said it in regard to quantum mechanics, but it applies equally well to gun control: "If it makes sense, then you obviously don't understand it."

Ken
 
KMaurer said:
Oh, I understand but it still doesn't make any sense. Once you get past the Ten Commandmants and the Bill of Rights, the rest is pretty much just psycho-babble.

I think that it was Werner Heisenberg who originally said it in regard to quantum mechanics, but it applies equally well to gun control: "If it makes sense, then you obviously don't understand it."

Ken

Ha! Now that does make sense, er...wait a minute...now I'm really confused.
 
TonyD said:
KMaurer said:
Oh, I understand but it still doesn't make any sense. Once you get past the Ten Commandmants and the Bill of Rights, the rest is pretty much just psycho-babble.

I think that it was Werner Heisenberg who originally said it in regard to quantum mechanics, but it applies equally well to gun control: "If it makes sense, then you obviously don't understand it."

Ken

Ha! Now that does make sense, er...wait a minute...now I'm really confused.


Welcome to the world of MA gun laws. [cry]
 
Lynne said:
TonyD said:
KMaurer said:
Oh, I understand but it still doesn't make any sense. Once you get past the Ten Commandmants and the Bill of Rights, the rest is pretty much just psycho-babble.

I think that it was Werner Heisenberg who originally said it in regard to quantum mechanics, but it applies equally well to gun control: "If it makes sense, then you obviously don't understand it."

Ken

Ha! Now that does make sense, er...wait a minute...now I'm really confused.


Welcome to the world of MA gun laws. [cry]

No way! I live in the great state of GA. The GA gun law is: If you reside in the state of Georgia, you must own at least one firearm!
 
Lynne,

No, it was only one city that did this. It REQUIRED every household to OWN a gun! [twisted]

It was in response to Morton Grove, IL which FORBID any household from owning a gun.

In MA, a law like Kennesaw passed might cause a drop in crime and that would upset our politicians to no end! Nothing like that could ever happen here. [evil]
 
LenS said:
Lynne,

No, it was only one city that did this. It REQUIRED every household to OWN a gun! [twisted]

It was in response to Morton Grove, IL which FORBID any household from owning a gun.

In MA, a law like Kennesaw passed might cause a drop in crime and that would upset our politicians to no end! Nothing like that could ever happen here. [evil]

And GOD FORBID we do something to take away the reins of power from those A holes up on the hill. They need every excuse they can find to stay in office so they can screw us. Only problem is, we're always experiencing that "the morning after" feeling....and it sucks. <insert raspberry sound> I remember reading about that, but I forgot it was in GA. I may change my mind and move to GA instead of VA. :D
 
KENNESAW, Ga - Several Kennesaw officials attribute a drop in crime in the city over the past two decades to a law that requires residents to have a gun in the house.

In 1982, the Kennesaw City Council unanimously passed a law requiring heads of households to own at least one firearm with ammunition.

The ordinance states the gun law is needed to "protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants."

Then-councilman J.O. Stephenson said after the ordinance was passed, everyone "went crazy."

"People all over the country said there would be shootings in the street and violence in homes," he said. "Of course, that wasn't the case."

In fact, according to Stephenson, it caused the crime rate in the city to plunge.

Kennesaw Historical Society president Robert Jones said following the law's passage, the crime rate dropped 89 percent in the city, compared to the modest 10 percent drop statewide.

"It did drop after it was passed," he said. "After it initially dropped, it has stayed at the same low level for the past 16 years."

Mayor Leonard Church was not in office when the law was passed, but he said he is a staunch supporter of it.

"You can't argue with the fact that Kennesaw has the lowest crime rate of any city our size in the country," said Church, who owns a denture-making company in Kennesaw...
 
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