Bullseye Camera Target System

[breyton490]

Just came across this remote video camera system that can be used to show shot placement remotely via laptop or mobile device. Looks pretty cool, thought it could be great to use at 200/300 yard ranges at HSC.

Has anyone bought one of these systems? If so, what did you think.. does it work as advertised?

http://www.bullseyecamera.com/index.html

 

[Qdiver911]

We do have one. Great system, plug and play. The only down side is the cable extension, we found out after all the trench/ conduit was filled in, sod replaced and tamped we lost the crispness of the camera when infrared was active. Perfect in the daylight, night time not so much. Customer support was prompt, to the point and friendly. Very happy with all 8 Big Brothers watching 24/7

 

[Kevin_NH]

I'd be nervous putting an unarmored camera & transmitter downrange at a public range.

I'm surprised nobody has done anything similar with a spotting scope? E.g. lock the scope in position, check your hits on a tablet instead of moving your head and carefully lining up with the eyepiece without moving the scope. And since the spotting scope can be right next to the bench, doesn't need significant radio range.

 

[Rim Job]

Just get a phone mount for the scope

https://www.google.com/search?q=SPO...=xgVuVLWCEY22yAStqoLoBg&ved=0CGEQsAQ#imgdii=_

 

[Matt_SERE]

Just get a phone mount for the scope

https://www.google.com/search?q=SPO...=xgVuVLWCEY22yAStqoLoBg&ved=0CGEQsAQ#imgdii=_

I have heard good things about this one. No personal experience.

http://www.iscope.com/#!ispotter/c1ih

I spoke with Hunts Photo and Digital and they have heard about the one above and this one: http://www.phoneskope.com/

They do not stock either but it has been mentioned by photographers.

ETA: http://www.phoneskope.com/shooting-sports/
https://www.phoneskope.com/store/electronic_brand_select

 

[mac1911]

I have heard good things about this one. No personal experience.

http://www.iscope.com/#!ispotter/c1ih

I spoke with Hunts Photo and Digital and they have heard about the one above and this one: http://www.phoneskope.com/

They do not stock either but it has been mentioned by photographers.

ETA: http://www.phoneskope.com/shooting-sports/

The problem with these is screen size. I Take photos of my targets when done shooting and on the phone screen its tough to see the holes sometimes. Also Im curious if you can pick up the mirage on the phone screen. After all that is a big reason to use a spotting scope in long range competition.
Now if they came out with a simple set up with a decent size screen for short money that would be great. Yeah having "data" saved is cool and all but I still like my log book.

 

[Matt_SERE]

The problem with these is screen size. I Take photos of my targets when done shooting and on the phone screen its tough to see the holes sometimes. Also Im curious if you can pick up the mirage on the phone screen. After all that is a big reason to use a spotting scope in long range competition.
Now if they came out with a simple set up with a decent size screen for short money that would be great. Yeah having "data" saved is cool and all but I still like my log book.

I edited while you posted. They have them for tablets too. Their site is impressive in helping you pick the right equipment for tablets, phones for; spotting scopes, cameras, telescopes and more.

Again, no first hand knowledge of this but it seems well laid out.

https://www.phoneskope.com/store/ele...c_brand_select

 

[coachjpg]

I use this for long range, an 8" spotting scope.


http://www.celestron.com/browse-shop/astronomy/optical-tubes/c8-a-xlt-(cge)-optical-tube-assembly

 

[Kevin_NH]

I use this for long range, an 8" spotting scope. View attachment 120260

Wow, +$1K for a spotting scope, and it doesn't even have an iPhone interface!

 

[coachjpg]

Wow, +$1K for a spotting scope, and it doesn't even have an iPhone interface!

I dont have the iphone adapter, but it's available:
http://www.celestron.com/browse-sho...ers/x-cel-lx-to-iphone-44s-smartphone-adapter

This scope works great for seeing bullet holes in targets from 300+ yards away, even with my old eyes. The video cameras solve the same problem, but they put electronics downrange. I teach & coach, so I try not to put anything of value downrange. Also, I can put this in a backpack and take it to the field for glassing/photographing wildlife.

I also have their 5" version:
http://www.celestron.com/browse-shop/sport-optics/spotting-scopes/c5-spotting-scope
which is easier to carry and works great at 100+ yards.

These scopes work for astronomy too, and you can screw on a camera back and have a very long lens. The 5" gives you a 1250 mm lens with a 127mm objective. The 8" gives you a 2032 mm lens with a 203.2 objective. The big objective pulls in a lot of light, so you can see into the shadows better. When there's plenty of light, you can add a doubler at the back that doubles the magnification at the expense of half the brightness.

As these devices go, Celestron makes good products that are not nearly as expensive as their competition. Imagine glassing from an overwatch position, and being able to zoom way in to really see what you're looking at. In bright light, they can give you up to 580X and 350X respectively. For maximum light-gathering, in the dark, you'd run them at 29X and 18X respectively.

I've never understood the way some long-range shooters settle for optics that don't let them clearly see their target. Any mechanism that helps me clearly see my target becomes increasingly valuable as I get older.

 

[Boris]

I've done this few years back, basically laptop + webcam onto a spotting scope, records your session + software counts/scores your target, shows last shot placement.

Camera near target is something that has been used in Olympics since digital cameras weren't even available. So there is nothing new invented here.

Camera on spotting scope has a lot of drawbacks: Clamp-on will have dirt and vapor on lenses, especially when pulling it out of warm car on a cold range. For summer, the hot air rising will wreak havoc on shot identification, plus most of your ****ers shoot that homo 223 rounds, so good luck spotting those with camera beyond 200y. How do I know ... I've built this shit.

 

[coachjpg]

8" scope at the 300 yard range at Harvard. It's nice to be able to see exactly where you're hitting, even on a gray day when you don't have pits with people pulling and marking your target.

A remote target camera would accomplish the same thing. The scope also allows me to stand behind the line and observe multiple targets, if I have multiple shooters. Compared to multiple remote cameras, the scope is cheaper.

Boris has inspired me to put a camera back on the telescope and see how that works. Unlike "digiscoping", where you put your camera where your eye would go and the camera "looks" through the eyepiece, these scopes allow you to remove the eyepiece and mount the scope on the camera as a manual focus lens. (It's more like mounting the camera on the scope, but you get the idea.)

 

[mac1911]

I dont have the iphone adapter, but it's available:
http://www.celestron.com/browse-sho...ers/x-cel-lx-to-iphone-44s-smartphone-adapter

This scope works great for seeing bullet holes in targets from 300+ yards away, even with my old eyes. The video cameras solve the same problem, but they put electronics downrange. I teach & coach, so I try not to put anything of value downrange. Also, I can put this in a backpack and take it to the field for glassing/photographing wildlife.

I also have their 5" version:
http://www.celestron.com/browse-shop/sport-optics/spotting-scopes/c5-spotting-scope
which is easier to carry and works great at 100+ yards.

These scopes work for astronomy too, and you can screw on a camera back and have a very long lens. The 5" gives you a 1250 mm lens with a 127mm objective. The 8" gives you a 2032 mm lens with a 203.2 objective. The big objective pulls in a lot of light, so you can see into the shadows better. When there's plenty of light, you can add a doubler at the back that doubles the magnification at the expense of half the brightness.

As these devices go, Celestron makes good products that are not nearly as expensive as their competition. Imagine glassing from an overwatch position, and being able to zoom way in to really see what you're looking at. In bright light, they can give you up to 580X and 350X respectively. For maximum light-gathering, in the dark, you'd run them at 29X and 18X respectively.

I've never understood the way some long-range shooters settle for optics that don't let them clearly see their target. Any mechanism that helps me clearly see my target becomes increasingly valuable as I get older.

Great set up for sitting behind shooters for sure. Although that thing would be troublesome shooting prone. What is the eye relief like on those.
I'm more interested in just a small say 10" monitor no software or data saved. just want to see the holes as I shoot them...

 

[coachjpg]

Great set up for sitting behind shooters for sure. Although that thing would be troublesome shooting prone. What is the eye relief like on those.
I'm more interested in just a small say 10" monitor no software or data saved. just want to see the holes as I shoot them...

It's actually much more stable when prone. It takes a little arranging to get everything situated. Once all is arranged, it works great. You can lean over to look through the scope without adjusting your hands or elbows. A monitor would have its advantages, of course, but this works for me.

That's am image-errecting prism, a 2X Barlow "doubler", and a zoom eyepiece. Eye relief is not much at all.

It takes some technology to see small holes hundreds of yards away, either optical or digital. I work all day with computers and wireless devices. When I shoot, that's my recreation time, where I much prefer optics to computers. It's purely a personal preference. I mention it here as a viable option, not as a better way.


This was me testing the rig for standing use. Those targets seem so far away... BTW, I only shoot prone here. I'm not good enough to shoot 300 yards standing, yet.