Bullet found on British beach...

[LoginName]

Talk about overreacting...


"Bullets found on beach
A 12-YEAR-OLD boy and his grandfather discovered a potentially "lethal" gun cartridge on a beach.
Retired Hartlepool policeman Ralph Bantoft, 64, was out walking with his grandson Sam McKenna, 12, and his friend Michael Nicholson, 12, along the beach at the Headland, when they spotted the bullet.
He said: "Suddenly Sam pointed out a cartridge lying at the bottom of a small pond."
Ralph, of the Fens area of Hartlepool, has more than 40 years of firearms experience and was a firearms instructor with the police.
He said: "It was a blank 303 cartridge probably used in the last 12 months.
"These cartridges have started to turn up pretty regularly along the beach and, although they are blanks and relatively safe to handle, they still contain a small amount of explosive.
"If placed in a fire, or a car exhaust, as a prank they can become unstable and dangerous.
"I think the practice of leaving cartridges like this lying around is irresponsible when they can be lethal.
"Anyone with a gun licence is required to account for every round.
"People need to remember that the firing pin of a weapon is so distinctive that the police can trace the gun's owner through marks on the cartridge.
"Obviously I don't want to go down this route, but if there is an accident as a result of these cartridges the culprits can be traced."
A spokeswoman for Cleveland Police said if the cartridges are washed up on the beach or are simply found on the beach then it is hard for officers to police.
But she said: "We would advise anyone who comes across a cartridge to hand them into a police station."

http://www.hartlepooltoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=1109&ArticleID=1460703

 

[Admin]

WOW, looks like a liberal utopia to me.

 

[dreppucci007]

WOW, looks like a liberal utopia to me.

+1

 

[hminsky]

If you place a can of shaving cream in a fire, it could become unstable and dangerous. Let's see, what else..
I wonder if a can of creamed corn might explode if you put in in a fire for long enough.

 

[SiameseRat]

I wonder if they know those cartridges are floating across the Atlantic from New Hampshire and Maine...

 

[JonJ]

An empty cartridge?!?!?!? OH THE HUMANITY! Whatever will they do?

 

[JRyan]

Won't someone think of the children!?!?!


It's a mad world.

 

[securityboy]

I used a bunch of non-reloadable brass as fill once in my back yard, pulled a stump, had a hole, just dumped a bobcat load of old brass in the hole and covered it up...hope the brits don't find out...

Funny thing is my father just sent me an article about how the price of scrap has gone up, and I considered digging it up, but didn't seem worth the aggrivation...

 

[Weerd Beard]

I tossed a full can of coke in a bonfire once....that was a bigass boom....and then we were all suddenly sticky!

yeah that shell casing could be dangerous if that kid happend to JAM IT IN HIS EYE!!!!

Never underestimate the power of reactionary stupidity!

Arrrr

-Weer'd Beard

A little more info here
http://www.theboxotruth.netfirms.com//forums/nfphpbb/viewtopic.php?t=54

 

[Jose]

Behold The Nanny State in full bloom.....

 

[reinbeau]

I tossed a full can of coke in a bonfire once....that was a bigass boom....and then we were all suddenly sticky!

Coke? Hell, we used to toss hairspray into the fire!

 

[Budman]

JRyan

I'm with you - must look out for the children, poor things! Better still, be wary of the former Grampa cop.

 

[Weerd Beard]

Coke? Hell, we used to toss hairspray into the fire!

Yeah I half expected the can to burn and all the coke to come out...but it got hot enugh to explode!

Not quite as volitile as hairspray methinks

Arrrrr

-Weer'd Beard

I'd throw a live round into a fire before I tossed a can of hairspray. The can is MUCH more dangerous!

 

[Optimistic Paranoid]

Behold The Nanny State in full bloom.....

Indeed. These idiots don't even realize how it's affecting the pool of people they depend on for their own defense.

02Feb05

Comments on the British, from a friend working in Iraq:

"The vast majority of the Brits working in the sandbox are thoroughly
brainwashed with anti-gun propaganda, which I'm sure they've been hearing from childhood. When we return to our lodging, they cannot get rid of their guns fast enough! They refuse to keep loaded guns in quarters. They hate putting them on and can't wait to take them off, and they never carry them with a round chambered. Probably just as well, as none of them can hit the ground with their hat!

They refer to Americans as 'paranoid gun nuts'. Mouthing propaganda, they constantly make remarks about our infatuation, as a nation, with guns. Their walls are covered with photos of women, and ours have guns, ammunition, and gear hanging on them. Their free time is spent watching porno DVDs. Ours is spent cleaning weapons and scrounging additional ammo and gear. We have SAWs, M-4s, and pistols. They will only carry (unloaded) MP-5s!

One of my teammates, a former Marine, ran into some Marine friends. They asked what he needed and offered his some ordinance, which he readily accepted. Brits were furious! We aren't 'allowed' to have that. We might 'get in trouble.' They called him 'unprofessional' and insisted that we had 'no need' for such things.

Yet, when they get in over their heads, they invariably bleat for us the save them."

Comment: I'm sure Boadicea is turning over in her grave! I hope, for her sake, Britain is never invaded.

/John

Regards
John

 

[Patriot]

Indeed. These idiots don't even realize how it's affecting the pool of people they depend on for their own defense.



Regards
John

The Brits are lost and there is no hope for them. The gene pool has long ago
been emptied of anything remotely resembling common sense. The Iron Maiden
was the last person in JOE to have a pair and I don't even know if she is still
alive.

TBP

 

[Executive]

I wonder if they know those cartridges are floating across the Atlantic from New Hampshire and Maine...

Chris

 

[Pilgrim]

'bullets found on beach'

I don't see no stinking 'bullets'...only brass was mentioned in that write up.

 

[TonyD]

-Weer'd Beard

A little more info here
http://www.theboxotruth.netfirms.com//forums/nfphpbb/viewtopic.php?t=54

I wonder if the niece of one of the guys at my gun club who had to have brass removed from her right bronchi knows that OP said it was false.

 

[KMaurer]

Actually it seems as if OP didn't look too closely at the tests. First, anybody who's taken high school physics (or stayed awake through middle school science) knows that the bullets aren't going anywhere. They're so heavy in comparison to the case, that they tend to slide around on the ground, while the case (or pieces of the case) go flying in the opposite direction. Because the cases are so light and un-streamlined, they only have a very short range. There's a video of a test SAAMI did a while back in which they took several dozen cases of assorted center fire ammo, doused it with fuel oil, and lit it off on camera. None of the bullets ended up more than a couple of feet from their starting point, and all the cases landed within a 20 foot circle.

All of that having been said, within that range the cases are moving fast enough to hurt like hell. My youngest brother has had to replace more than one face shield as a result of scratches caused by flying cases in fires. (Literally everybody and his grandmother has guns and ammunition where he works.) As I mentioned above, cartridge cases also frequently get ripped apart; when they do the pieces end up flying even faster. If they'll scratch a face shield, they'll penetrate skin. While those pieces will never penetrate deeply, they can end up in blood vessels and get moved to locations that can proove very dangerous for your health.

Ken

 

[TonyD]

Exactly, Ken. In this case a piece of brass hit directly above the sternoclavicular notch and pierced her trachea and traveled down the right mainstem bronchus and lodged. Very bad JuJu.

 

[Weerd Beard]

Exactly, Ken. In this case a piece of brass hit directly above the sternoclavicular notch and pierced her trachea and traveled down the right mainstem bronchus and lodged. Very bad JuJu.

very true, and I'm glad your firend is OK, but now aren't we getting down into the realm of rare occorance, kinda like the odd situation where a glock can be droped in such a way to cause a light-strike on a soft primer can cause an Accidental Discharge? It CAN happen, but still doesn't change that these limeys are making a big-deal over nothing. tripping and falling on a rock on the beack poses more danger. Or having an allergic reaction to a washed-up jellyfish.

Let's not even think about those cars filled with petrol....bombs with wheels sez I!

-Weer'd Beard

 

[taz-2005]

I like the nonsense about the firing pin mark being traceable to the owner myself.

 

[Pilgrim]

My son was sitting around a camp fire when a 'friend' threw a .22 round into the fire. As my son tipped a coke can up to his lips, he heard a bang and felt a sharp pain in his upraised hand.

He screamed, dropped the can and saw that a great big chunk of the side of his finger was gone.

He went to the hospital where xrays showed he still had lead fragments in what was left of his finger bone.

If he hadn't had his hand tipping the coke can at his lips, the round would have got him in the eye, possibly killing him.

Don't believe those who say cooking off a round is harmless.

 

[Weerd Beard]

I stand corrected!

I still think the brits are making mountains out of mole hills.

-Weer'd Beard

 

[Amicus]

If you place a can of shaving cream in a fire, it could become unstable and dangerous. Let's see, what else..
I wonder if a can of creamed corn might explode if you put in in a fire for long enough.

I hear that Westphalian canned hams are posititively lethal when left in a fire.

 

[curlymaple42]

I think that can of creamed corn would be the worst of all!! I would certainly barf multiple times. I cannot even stand the smell of that crap!!!! Talk about dangerous...hot stinky corn and puke all over the place!