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38ExtraSpecial
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Looks like a paper patch bullet mould. Wanna sell it?
Drops at .304” and you paper wrap up to around .310”
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Thank you for the info! I’m used to paper patch bullets not having any circumferential grooves at all. I know how to paper patch, I do it for my Martini. I’ll hang on it for now. Thanks again.
38ExtraSpecial
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You’re welcome. Not sure why they did it like that but I’ve seen a .450” or so 45/70 NEI mould with the same style grooves in it.
not fire pit bricks but refractory to contain the heat better. The side burner is not very good. Not bad for small batches but it takes a long time.
My current fryer burner is 100,000 btu its rotted out to the point where the venturi holes are decayed and I do not get a nice flame. So i plan on getting a 200,000 and a 30psi regulator . Like to contain that heat better with the more powerful burner. Looking for a source of ceramic insulation blanket also. Been looking for scrap ovens to raid the shell and insulation with no luck.
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Im not sure what most are rated for. Trying to contain as much of the heat as I can. Problem is the bricks available locally are thin and not really well suited to stacking. Plus they are expensive at $4-5 a wack I might as well buy a insulated smelting pot.
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I’m sure there are cheaper places but you can get kaowool pretty cheap. The ITC100 would be a nice addition.
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So you put way more thought into this than I ever have. I just Hill-Billy parts together until something works.
What about The ReStore? You have those out your way? I donate stuff to them all the time.
Anything to boost efficiency to a point.
The lead just keeps coming.
Burning up the 6lbs of LP I did the 80lbs of isotope containers
Plus another 10lbs of random scrap for seminar donation
80lbs
Burning up the 6lbs of LP I did the 80lbs of isotope containers
Plus another 10lbs of random scrap for seminar donation
80lbs
Jay77
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Minor hiccup in my 8mm cast reloads. My Dillon conversion kit came in and the powder funnel has no case expander so I have no way to bell the case till the lee universal case expander that I ordered comes in. Normally I just run all Dillon dies but this is the first time I had to go with something else.
I took more of my 9mm casts to the range yesterday and I’m continued to be impressed. First no lead, but I did the 100 yard challenge with the kids. The 100 yard challenge is basically how well you can do free hand with the handgun at the hundred. Pick a rock on the backstop and see who comes the closet the most consistent. It’s a good training tool.
I was hitting pretty consistently a soccer ball sized area around the target. I did buy a drop in barrel for the gun to run the casts through and oddly it was hitting POA.
I took more of my 9mm casts to the range yesterday and I’m continued to be impressed. First no lead, but I did the 100 yard challenge with the kids. The 100 yard challenge is basically how well you can do free hand with the handgun at the hundred. Pick a rock on the backstop and see who comes the closet the most consistent. It’s a good training tool.
I was hitting pretty consistently a soccer ball sized area around the target. I did buy a drop in barrel for the gun to run the casts through and oddly it was hitting POA.
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Tractor Supply and some Country Hardware stores have them. I am just not sure about this time of the year as the sales spaces usually go to summer items like grills, etc.
Towards the fall = you can definitely find them at those places (in the wood stove supply areas).
If your impatient like me a tapered punch makes a good Hand flare tool.
At least get some loaded up if your getting to the range this weekend
Get some SR1 or the 50 yard service pistol targets and Put them at 100yd
Or a 8-10” plate. People often surprise themselves when they shoot at distance with a pistol.
Going the elchepo route. Waiting to find a old stove and raid it for the sheet metal and insulation.
For now I switch back to my Cast pot (down side it only holds 50lbs) cut a ring from the LP tank pot to go around rhe pot and used every muffin pan to block the heat the best I can.
I did 100lbs yesterday in less time than the last batch and used about 1/3 to 1/2 less fuel. Running out the last 6lbs of the free tank 3 runs so far.
Will run a small load today to use up the last of the gas then bring it to see if they will fill it?
Artie
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If you are in or around the the Attleboro area this weekend, I could lend you my Lee universal expander. Not using it currently. Good luck
38ExtraSpecial
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The lee expander is nice but if you get a chance to get a Lyman M Die it’s a nicer option. It’s designed specifically for cast so it expands about .001” more than normal. It also has a second step in the expander that works kind of like a flaring die. They’re awesome.
Great work man. I’m really happy for you. It’s so rewarding to cast your own. Great job showing the next generation how well cast works and of course how to shoot
Jay77
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Thanks all. I was going to put it on hold till the expander die comes in but I’ll be hitting the punch at some point today. Pour another pot of 9’s this morning.
The lead just keeps coming. Old timer I know dropped off a bunch of wheel weights this morning
Burning up the last few pounds of free propane.
Switched back to the cast iron and made a heat shield from theLP tank pot.
Basically cut the time to melt about
30% I have already processed 50lbs
When this tank is empty im off to see how honest the local fill place is . They say by the gallon and fill to max capacity. We will see, he did say it will fill to the OPD valve style and it may not be exactly max capacity ? We will see
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And there it is 120lbs of nice alloy gleaming in the independence day sun just over a hour from set up to ignots to clean up.
Ok so just figured it out, with the free 6lbs if propane I melted and casted 350lbs of ignots with the last 2 batches being the fasted and largest amounts.
Before I was running on average 500lbs per 15# exchange tank at thus rate im pushing closer to 900 lbs per 15lb propane.
Only thing left is those 200lbs of lead collars.
I will let me scrap pile build up again and wait till I can run serveral 100lbs at one session. More efficient that way I believe
Burning up the last few pounds of free propane.
Switched back to the cast iron and made a heat shield from theLP tank pot.
Basically cut the time to melt about
30% I have already processed 50lbsWhen this tank is empty im off to see how honest the local fill place is . They say by the gallon and fill to max capacity. We will see, he did say it will fill to the OPD valve style and it may not be exactly max capacity ? We will see
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And there it is 120lbs of nice alloy gleaming in the independence day sun just over a hour from set up to ignots to clean up.
Ok so just figured it out, with the free 6lbs if propane I melted and casted 350lbs of ignots with the last 2 batches being the fasted and largest amounts.
Before I was running on average 500lbs per 15# exchange tank at thus rate im pushing closer to 900 lbs per 15lb propane.
Only thing left is those 200lbs of lead collars.
I will let me scrap pile build up again and wait till I can run serveral 100lbs at one session. More efficient that way I believe
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38ExtraSpecial
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Damn you got a lot of lead
For small amounts of brass, a .50 BMG dummy round works as an impromptu case expander.
Not really but plenty for my needs and why I donate to the seminar and help others out. Its been years since I out laid any real cash for casting other than molds , plus these new ignot molds are fun.
My wife came strolling out to the danger zone, “what are you doing”
Had my fake teeth out and bent up glasses on looked up and in my worst “redneck” accent said “imdender mak’n gowld” she looked at the stack of ignots and just shook her head “dont forget to clean the pool” as she walked away
38ExtraSpecial
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Good old fiberglass is good to 1000
Insulation Materials - Operating Temperature Limits
Temperature limits for commonly used insulation materials.
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good to know, I have some scraps left over.Good old fiberglass is good to 1000
Insulation Materials - Operating Temperature Limits
Temperature limits for commonly used insulation materials.
But if its left out to the weather it gets moldy and foul smelling real fast plus when its wet there is no r value
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A sheet metal shield is going to get you a large fraction of the maximum heat retention - two layers spaced at 3/4-1" will block the wind, hold the hot glue gasses close to the crucible, and give you an R of 4-5.
I think the insulation is a small part of the loss equation compared to the loss from the heat getting blown away by wind.
With Redneck Gold ingot molds on hand, I couldn't help myself so I mixed another 20lbs of 50/50 COWW and flashing lead.
Didn't wait long enough to get up to a high enough temp to get nice ingots but got to try them out.
Ingots came out at about 1kg and dropped out out the molds easily - @mac1911 thanks for setting up the buy on these, worth every dollar.
Didn't wait long enough to get up to a high enough temp to get nice ingots but got to try them out.
Ingots came out at about 1kg and dropped out out the molds easily - @mac1911 thanks for setting up the buy on these, worth every dollar.
