Guys. I really look at this like the classic "Ford vs. Chevy" debate. Not a lot of right and wrong about what to do because everyone has a different reality. The reality, I believe, is that it is one of those 100% personal situational deals. Its going to be a different answer for every one of us depending on our wide variety of personal circumstances. For most situations I am prepared to stay in place for as long a possible. But if the proverbial wandering hoards are out and about, going from house to house, then I am prepared to leave, and thankfully have somewhere to go, assuming I'm smart enough to get out early enough. But as Derek has said time and time again (and forgive me if I am wrong on this in any way), but planning a long term bug-in in a situation where people REALLY want your stuff, then you're doomed. It just comes down to something as simple as being able to be burned out of your own home if someone decides to start throwing Molotov cocktails at it. Unless you have 1000 yard free-fire zones around your house and enough manpower and firepower to keep people from getting close enough to torch you out, (never mind years of food and water in place) you will ultimately die in place. If you think, or recognize, that one ultimate reality is bands of bad guys ending up in your neighborhood to take your stuff, then a clear bug out plan is to me, the only realistic answer to surviving.