Breaking News - David Ortiz shot during attempted robbery

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"At least one outlet — the Daily Mail, citing three sources with Dominican Republic law enforcement — is reporting that Ortiz was shot by gunmen hired by a drug lord who thought Ortiz was having an affair with his wife."

"The New York Post has picked up on this report but at the moment no other outlets are confirming it"

"A representative of Ortiz has said that, contrary to initial reports, this was not a robbery attempt, calling this “an act of hired killers,” but denied that it had anything to do with a woman."

It certainly didn't look like any type of robbery attempt. So maybe this other allegation has a bit of truth tied to it...

Arrest made in Ortiz shooting; police, Ortiz representatives call it an act of a hired gun
 

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The Red Sox paid for the private medical flight. Not sure if they paid for the police escort or if the state picked up the tab on that one.

I doubt that you or I would receive the same level of care as he is getting at the hospital. They would probably just assign a medical assistant to me if this happened...
Ever been to MGH?? The difference in care between Ortiz and you at MGH is a ton smaller than you'd think. At most hospitals, it'd be night and day. MGH? That's how they do things. They are amazing over there.

I know the flight was paid for by the bosox......I have no issue there.....private money. I do have a problem with tax dollars going toward a police escort that was completely not necessary. Do motorists pull over any faster for blue lights than red ones? The whole police escort was a bunch or f***ing crap.
Really - is it "costing" us anything? I mean, besides that many less cops patrolling the highways and byways so crime will be rampant for 2-3 hours or so. I'm assuming the Commandant didn't call 5-6 off-duty Moto-cops and pull them in at time-and-a-half. At least, I'd like to think that. Because of that's how things work on stuff like that, the whole kit-and-caboodle needs to be b-slapped to the curb.

With the Mirabelli escort issue in 2006, I think the SP wouldn't provide such an escort gratis. The Sox organization would be aware of it too.
What Mirabelli escort??? I'm drawing a blank. Refresh my memory.
 

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Do motorists pull over any faster for blue lights than red ones?
Absolutely Yes. Years of working on an ambulance, lots of ignoring red lights, but blues get a much better response. Hopefully the escort was funded by the sox too, but if not the only explanation they could reasonably give is that because of the news coverage of the flight and when and where it landed, they did the escort for safety reasons. Not that it's a great reason, but would be the only one that would make sense.
 

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Ever been to MGH?? The difference in care between Ortiz and you at MGH is a ton smaller than you'd think. At most hospitals, it'd be night and day. MGH? That's how they do things. They are amazing over there.
MGH also has a VIP ward which he is most likely in, foreign dignitaries have been there for surgeries he is in good hands now
 
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Really - is it "costing" us anything? I mean, besides that many less cops patrolling the highways and byways so crime will be rampant for 2-3 hours or so. I'm assuming the Commandant didn't call 5-6 off-duty Moto-cops and pull them in at time-and-a-half. At least, I'd like to think that. Because of that's how things work on stuff like that, the whole kit-and-caboodle needs to be b-slapped to the curb.
It doesn't matter. They'd be putting in for OT even if they didn't work it. [laugh]
 

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I know the flight was paid for by the bosox......I have no issue there.....private money. I do have a problem with tax dollars going toward a police escort that was completely not necessary.
I'm glad I have better things to worry about than whether or not a cop car was used to escort an ambulance to a hospital... with all the fraud and bullshit going on
in this state, is that really a big deal? [laugh] Besides, someone probably paid for it, anyone can buy a police detail. I'm sure the red sox or whoever wouldn't care
about being billed for it, given that the medical flight costs render it noise in comparison.

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I'm glad I have better things to worry about than whether or not a cop car was used to escort an ambulance to a hospital... with all the fraud and bullshit going on
in this state, is that really a big deal? [laugh] Besides, someone probably paid for it, anyone can buy a police detail. I'm sure the red sox or whoever wouldn't care
about being billed for it, given that the medical flight costs render it noise in comparison.

-Mike
Indeed. And the escort was probably out of F Troop at Logan, so the net effect was simply that for a short time, folks weren’t being chased out of the terminal drop offs after 1.27 milliseconds ...
 

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Ah yes. I've not been to Logan for a pickup in eons. Back in 00, I picked up my sister and then-BF at the airport from vacation. I arrived about 15 min before the flight landed. Late on a Sunday night. Parked in the pickup area, sat on my trunk and lit a cigar. It was me and 2 SP cops. And the occasional car. Waited 45 min.

I miss those days.
 

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For the most part, he's a national treasure down there, so I get why he feels comfortable and relaxed in his home. However, given his net worth and the relative poverty there, I think it would be best if he moved out.
This.
I mean I get it, that people (some anyways) like to go "home" and settle after making out well in life, etc, but...
I've done ok in my life, thanks to God, good fortune, a good woman, good jobs, etc, and I live in a nice house/nice neighborhood/etc..
But I sure as hell don't go back to where I was raised (the Roxbury/Dorchester line) to hang out (and live) with some of my old "Homeys" or my "posse", my old "crew" etc (many of whom are still there, still on that same barstool, or still hanging out near the liquor store on Columbia Road, etc etc)

Just sayin'
 

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Known to my friends in England as, "The Daily Fail." Well known for making shit up and printing it as fact. Sued most recently by the First Lady, and they settled quickly.

It's about as reliable as Weekly World News.

"At least one outlet — the Daily Mail, citing three sources with Dominican Republic law enforcement — is reporting that Ortiz was shot by gunmen hired by a drug lord who thought Ortiz was having an affair with his wife."

"The New York Post has picked up on this report but at the moment no other outlets are confirming it"

"A representative of Ortiz has said that, contrary to initial reports, this was not a robbery attempt, calling this “an act of hired killers,” but denied that it had anything to do with a woman."

It certainly didn't look like any type of robbery attempt. So maybe this other allegation has a bit of truth tied to it...

Arrest made in Ortiz shooting; police, Ortiz representatives call it an act of a hired gun
 

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World's highest paid Meter Maids.

Indeed. And the escort was probably out of F Troop at Logan, so the net effect was simply that for a short time, folks weren’t being chased out of the terminal drop offs after 1.27 milliseconds ...
 

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If Channel 5 is right, he almost immediately went to an OR at MGH for more surgery. They called it "exploratory", but I'd say the correct term is "revision." Which is where surgeons go in to fix something that was missed or done incorrectly.

His chance of survival went up exponentially by coming to the US.

The MGH is very experienced at handling high profile patients. Not only medically experienced, but experienced at handling PR and keeping people out.

MGH also has a VIP ward which he is most likely in, foreign dignitaries have been there for surgeries he is in good hands now
 

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If Channel 5 is right, he almost immediately went to an OR at MGH for more surgery. They called it "exploratory", but I'd say the correct term is "revision." Which is where surgeons go in to fix something that was missed or done incorrectly.

His chance of survival went up exponentially by coming to the US.

The MGH is very experienced at handling high profile patients. Not only medically experienced, but experienced at handling PR and keeping people out.
I would take that moreso to mean he still had internal bleeding and they had to go find the source. I don't think it would be unusual given the degree of injury he suffered and the amount of bleeding.
 

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As far as motive, given that Ortiz is a millionaire celebrity athlete in the DR, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the victim of some sort of extortion scheme given that some of his family still lives there. it's possible that because he's "Big Papi" he didn't take it seriously and this was his warning to "Pay up sucka!"
 
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I am sure that this will get some flak but why does the race papa belongs to seem to settle every thing with a gun? The predominate race that gets shot in Chicago is black. Is the race more violent or is it just the past societal and ethnic norms? I am not trying to make a poor comment, but the media seems to try and cover most crimes race. Why is that?
 

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Ortiz is Hispanic, not black. At least culturally. I knew a few very dark skinned Hispanic guys that got really pissed if someone called them black. If you know any dark skinned Hispanic guys, ask them.

I am sure that this will get some flak but why does the race papa belongs to seem to settle every thing with a gun? The predominate race that gets shot in Chicago is black. Is the race more violent or is it just the past societal and ethnic norms? I am not trying to make a poor comment, but the media seems to try and cover most crimes race. Why is that?
 
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Well F him then. I will lose no sleep over the misery/suffering of a grabber and an outspoken celebrity supporter of illegal immigration.
Ridiculous statements such as this are not helping the cause. People that are not forum members read this stuff and then categorize gun owners as a bunch of hateful nuts. Not caring about someone’s “misery/suffering” because the have a different opinion than yours seems rather narrow minded to say the least.

Any possible reasoning with an anti gun person takes a huge step backwards with attitudes such as this. If someone actually does feel this sort of hate keep it to yourself or your immediate circle. Posting it for all to see is just not cool.
 

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Ridiculous statements such as this are not helping the cause. People that are not forum members read this stuff and then categorize gun owners as a bunch of hateful nuts. Not caring about someone’s “misery/suffering” because the have a different opinion than yours seems rather narrow minded to say the least.

Any possible reasoning with an anti gun person takes a huge step backwards with attitudes such as this. If someone actually does feel this sort of hate keep it to yourself or your immediate circle. Posting it for all to see is just not cool.
Why’s it ridiculous? Because Big Papi?

Tying this to some attempt to convert antis is hilarious though. Thanks for the laugh.
 

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This.
I mean I get it, that people (some anyways) like to go "home" and settle after making out well in life, etc, but...
I've done ok in my life, thanks to God, good fortune, a good woman, good jobs, etc, and I live in a nice house/nice neighborhood/etc..
But I sure as hell don't go back to where I was raised (the Roxbury/Dorchester line) to hang out (and live) with some of my old "Homeys" or my "posse", my old "crew" etc (many of whom are still there, still on that same barstool, or still hanging out near the liquor store on Columbia Road, etc etc)

Just sayin'
This. I'll never move back to Connecticut. [rofl]
 

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Ridiculous statements such as this are not helping the cause. People that are not forum members read this stuff and then categorize gun owners as a bunch of hateful nuts. Not caring about someone’s “misery/suffering” because the have a different opinion than yours seems rather narrow minded to say the least.

Any possible reasoning with an anti gun person takes a huge step backwards with attitudes such as this. If someone actually does feel this sort of hate keep it to yourself or your immediate circle. Posting it for all to see is just not cool.
Here, try this.

Ridiculous statements where you’re lamenting the plight of this pro-illegal immigrant, anti 2A celebrity millionaire are not helping the pro gun, pro liberty causes. Gun owners that are not forum members read this stuff and then categorize NES members as a bunch of pink hat wearing fanboys willing to toss their ideals for historical sports figures. Shedding tears over this guy’s “misery/suffering” seems rather narrow minded to say the least.

Any possible reasoning with a pro-2A person takes a huge step backwards with attitudes such as this. If someone actually does feel this sort of emotion keep it to yourself or your immediate circle. Posting it for all to see is just not cool.
 

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