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BPD calling a 1911 an Assault Weapon?

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Traffic Stop in Roxbury Results in One Under Arrest and the Recovery of a Firearm and Drugs — bpdnews.com

About 6:41pm on Tuesday, December 1, 2020, members of the Youth Violence Strike Force made an on-site firearm arrest in the area of 38 Albert Street, Roxbury. Officers were on patrol in the area of Annunciation Road and Albert Street when their attention was drawn to a motor vehicle that was trave
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I don’t understand how a 1911 is an Assault Weapon... the threaded barrel? The missing Mag and Ammo is strange along with the comment that the Mag was attached outside of the grip?

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Upon returning to the motor vehicle, the officers observed the grip portion of a firearm protruding out from underneath the drivers seat. The firearm, a Smith & Wesson 1911 was loaded with (5) rounds of ammunition in the magazine. The firearm had a threaded attachment capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer, and the magazine was attached outside of the pistol grip.

Officers also recovered (7) medium plastic bags containing green vegetable matter believed to be marijuana, (12) small designer packages containing green vegetable matter believed to be marijuana, a digital scale, fanny pack and an open bottle of liquor.

The suspect, Rocky Luis Ayala, was arrested and charged with Unlawful Possession of an Assault Weapon, Unlawful Possession of a Firearm, Unlawful Possession of a Loaded Firearm, Unlawful Possession of Ammunition, Firearm Violation with 3 Prior Violent/Drug Crimes, Possession with Intent to Distribute Class D-Subsequent Offense, Resisting Arrest, and Forged/Misuse RMV Document. Ayala was also issued MA Uniform Citation for above violations.

Ayala is expected to be arraigned in Roxbury District Court. “
 
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"The firearm had a threaded attachment capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer, and the magazine was attached outside of the pistol
grip."

umm... yeah...

What is the meaning of mag outside the grip?

All that report is missing is "high capacity" and "clip"

I guess this is one other example of how legally transporting something "legal" but interesting in this state can get your caught up or at least wreck your day
 
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Apparently the LEO is confused about forward grips, would love to see one on a 1911, fastened to the threaded barrel.
 
Great, now when Biden comes to take our a-salt weapons we'll need to hide our 1911's too...[rofl2]
See they really do want to take all of our gunz!
 
Then an air rifle will be relabeled a pneumatic, fully-semi automatic, shoulder fired, machine gun.:eek:
 
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G Port said:
perhaps this is a test case. See if it flies.
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Yup, throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.
Worst case scenario for the prosecution is “no, that’s not right” best case is “yup, extra killy=assault weapon” then...

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DeadEyeDan said:
Since a 1911 is a tilting barrel that would pretty much make it inoperable right?
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No brah. You put the grip in the front so you can hold the barrel down. This has several advantages; it makes the gun more accurate (the dam barrel doesn't move), it makes it easier to control (deadlier), it creates less friction with the slide therefore allowing for full auto operation and the need to attach a mag to the side for quick reloads.

I am glad those heroes made it home safe, could have been a disaster.

As far as the assault weapon ... WWII. Duh!!!

Was it chambered in LUGAR?
 
Perp stole a nice gun and could only buy five rounds of ammunition. Probably wanted to stoke his rod with classic Black Talons from NES classifieds @ $6.00 a round. 2020 in a nutshell. [laugh]
Disclaimer on slide says gun is capable of firing with the magazine removed so the magazine can be "attached outside the pistol grip". He could even have it in his pocket. [rolleyes]
 
Pretty much how places like England did it.
First you ban "Assault weapons "
Then declare everything an "Assault weapon "
Except bolt actually hunting rifles those are now " Sniper rifles "
 
Best guess is they’re referring to a M&P 15 and messed up the model number. Because journalists.

Don’t ask me to explain the rest of it, though.
 
Good thing it wasn't a Glock or had a rail on it. That'd take it to a whole 'nother level
 
SCreign said:
Good thing it wasn't a Glock or had a rail on it. That'd take it to a whole 'nother level
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If this was the CT legal forum, I'd say absolutely correct.

In 2013 the CT legislature passed PA13-3. The AWB portion of the bill reduced the number of allowable evil features on a handgun to zero. So if you have a threaded barrel on your handgun, it is an AW.

This means that a Ruger 22/45 Lite is an assault weapon.

As is a Ruger charger, with the mag ahead of the grip.

Its insanity, but its the law of the land in CT.

Though not MA.
 
Tinkermatic said:
Yup, throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.
Worst case scenario for the prosecution is “no, that’s not right” best case is “yup, extra killy=assault weapon” then...
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No, they will run with all that spaghetti and if the perp has a public defender who is clueless about guns/gun laws, the guy will get convicted. If he's got a long rap sheet he might get a few months in stir. If he's pretty clean, he'll likely get a 5-10 yr sentence.
 
Len-2A Training said:
No, they will run with all that spaghetti and if the perp has a public defender who is clueless about guns/gun laws, the guy will get convicted. If he's got a long rap sheet he might get a few months in stir. If he's pretty clean, he'll likely get a 5-10 yr sentence.
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The armed career charge is mandatory 15 and they have to serve it if convicted of the gun charge and have three or more prior crimes of violence or drug distribution.
 

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