Blocking Pre Ban Magazines to 10 Rounds

EMTDAD said:
I'm still trying to figure out OP's logic.. ."block pre-ban mags to 10 rds"? why? I don't get it..
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So he doesn’t have to buy new magazines for his CCW, maybe?

Sounds like people are hoping there is a cheap solution to meet the legal requirements of converting to a 10 round magazine, which wouldn’t be too permanent if they wanted to convert it back to normal capacity at some point.
 
LakeTrout said:
So he doesn’t have to buy new magazines for his CCW, maybe?

Sounds like people are hoping there is a cheap solution to meet the legal requirements of converting to a 10 round magazine, which wouldn’t be too permanent if they wanted to convert it back to normal capacity at some point.
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In this case, the OP is an out-of-state vendor who has been selling pre-ban large capacity magazines. He is hoping for some wall-hack that would allow him to sell them as compliant magazines, but that would allow the buyer to convert them back to large capacity. In my not-a-lawyer opinion, there is no such wall-hack.
 
EMTDAD said:
I'm still trying to figure out OP's logic.. ."block pre-ban mags to 10 rds"? why? I don't get it..

as for transferring these pre-bans... do what you want.. there's no serial number, no record of transaction.. etc.. personally know your buyer .. accept whatever risk you're willing to take.

There's no way to prove what pre-ban you owned or didn't own prior to 8/1.


as for blocking.. at one time a local dealer was selling 30rd new mags with a rivet in the side to keep it to 10 rds.
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I guess if you’re trying to build a vintage rifle and need a period correct mag? I can’t imagine that’s a worthwhile market to target in MA.

If I had to buy 10 round mags, I’d much rather buy blocked Pmags or something else brand new and reliable than some old mag that might need a refreshed spring or follower that I now can’t replace because it’s epoxied together.

Buying blocked mags is dumb in general unless it’s the only option. The most reliable mag is going to be the factory 10.
 
M1911 said:
In this case, the OP is an out-of-state vendor who has been selling pre-ban large capacity magazines. He is hoping for some wall-hack that would allow him to sell them as compliant magazines, but that would allow the buyer to convert them back to large capacity. In my not-a-lawyer opinion, there is no such wall-hack.
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Ah, I see. That’s interesting. Well, it’s not illegal for him to sell them in his state to whoever he wants to sell them. And there’s no way for MA to know if the MA resident possessed it prior to the legislation passing. That’s all I’ll say.
 
M1911 said:
In this case, the OP is an out-of-state vendor who has been selling pre-ban large capacity magazines. He is hoping for some wall-hack that would allow him to sell them as compliant magazines, but that would allow the buyer to convert them back to large capacity. In my not-a-lawyer opinion, there is no such wall-hack.
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LakeTrout said:
Ah, I see. That’s interesting. Well, it’s not illegal for him to sell them in his state to whoever he wants to sell them. And there’s no way for MA to know if the MA resident possessed it prior to the legislation passing. That’s all I’ll say.
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I kinda can't blame the OP. I actually feel a little sorry for his/her dilemma. But the leftist scum who helped our anti-2A pols write the unconstitutional Monstrosity gun law were really super-detail oriented this time. They felt they had been burned in the past by loose & sloppy verbiage, so they tied everything up 19 different ways to Sunday on everything they could possibly think of. After that, I don't see any way he legally advertises and sells his pre-ban magazine stash inside Massachusetts. 🤔

That said, I wish him good luck. Some semi-workable ideas have been mentioned. There are others. He'll achieve his goal if he is determined enough. [mg]
 
EJFudd said:
I kinda can't blame the OP. I actually feel a little sorry for his/her dilemma. But the leftist scum who helped our anti-2A pols write the unconstitutional Monstrosity gun law were really super-detail oriented this time. They felt they had been burned in the past by loose & sloppy verbiage, so they tied everything up 19 different ways to Sunday on everything they could possibly think of. After that, I don't see any way he legally advertises and sells his pre-ban magazine stash inside Massachusetts. 🤔

That said, I wish him good luck. Some semi-workable ideas have been mentioned. There are others. He'll achieve his goal if he is determined enough. [mg]
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The previous version (Chapter 180 of the 1998 Laws) was written by Sen. Cheryl Jakes and/or her aide Angus McQuilken. It wasn't any surprise, given the authors, that it had a bunch of technical errors and was, in many ways, just stupid.
 
M1911 said:
In this case, the OP is an out-of-state vendor who has been selling pre-ban large capacity magazines. He is hoping for some wall-hack that would allow him to sell them as compliant magazines, but that would allow the buyer to convert them back to large capacity. In my not-a-lawyer opinion, there is no such wall-hack.
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hrm.. sounds like he had a profitable biz going on, now is stuck with a bunch of old crappy mags that aren't worth anything in the rest of the free America..
 
MAJoe said:
There are plenty of people who have no idea it’s illegal to buy or sell them still. There will always be those who don’t care.
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You can legally buy them in another state. There’s a simple solution here for people who are willing to take the drive.
 
Rob Boudrie said:
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"think" is the correct word. Nobody knows how this will be interpreted.

For example, it is "Readily convertable" if it requires an additional part or a replacement for a part that has been modified?
What if someone of orginary welding skill can convert a mag to > 10 rounds?
Or skill with a dremmel? Bridgeport?
What if you hve a cnc, hydraulic press, welding jig, spring winding machine and a bunch of sheet stock and spring wire?
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This is where my head went to with this. Anything is readily convertible with a little determination and imagination, it doesn't even require what some would consider "skill".

I "think" the ambiguity is probably a feature rather than a fault from the (in)correct perspective. If you own a shovel and a hammer, and happen to frequent a certain forum which talks about shovels and hammers, you basically are in possession of an arsenal. It says so right here (sort of) in this here stack of dogshit word soup!

A dash of this, a pinch of that, and it's "Off to jail with you rebel scum!".
 
McReef said:
I "think" the ambiguity is probably a feature rather than a fault from the (in)correct perspective.
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Those @drgrant would describe as afraid of their shadow follow a very strict interpreation.

Defendants who are innocent by any reasonable interpretation are more likley to take a plea bargain that someone who is unambiguously innocent - especailly in cases of a CWOF plea bargain that does not risk lifetime adverse consequences.
 
LakeTrout said:
You can legally buy them in another state. There’s a simple solution here for people who are willing to take the drive.
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Speaking of which, did anyone attend the West Springfield gun show last weekend? Had all the usual pre-ban magazine vendors disappeared? :oops:

If so, you know they aren't all giving up, retiring and going away. Can you say "See you all up in New Hampshire"? [devil]
 
eisenhow said:
He's and out of state dealer and is just looking for a way to "help us out" ;)
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eisenhow said:
I'm sure he's planning to offer them for non-inflated prices. [rofl][laugh2][rofl][laugh2][rofl]

I just orded some used Glock 17 10 rounders from Aim Surplus for $14 each. I'm sure he won't ask for more than that! :rolleyes:
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I really don't understand the animosity OP gets here sometimes, although in this thread it is actually on the milder side.

In theory, how can OP sourcing the mags outside, and making them available in MA at whatever prices, be anything but a good thing?

Most of those mags would have never made it to MA anyway, and he is actually "helping out" by increasing overall supply.

p.s.: "Offer for non-inflated prices" concept - I like that! Does that only apply if we are talking about the OP and prebans? Or do you always sell at cost or below here or elsewhere? Are you planning to downsize any guns, ammo, or houses this year? 😇🥰🤣
 
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LakeTrout said:
You can legally buy them in another state. There’s a simple solution here for people who are willing to take the drive.
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You can legally buy post ban mags out of state too. It’s illegal to import either of them into MA. Your simple solution is simple yet not legal.
 
MAJoe said:
You can legally buy post ban mags out of state too. It’s illegal to import either of them into MA. Your simple solution is simple yet not legal.
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What I said was legal, is absolutely legal.

Is it legal to import either of those? I don’t care. I would not import a post ban mag. But I would import pre-ban mags. It’s a lot harder to be caught doing that. And I would feel comfortable taking that risk.

I’m not suggesting anyone do it. Dont do it. It’s illegal. I’m just suggesting that I would if I were a MA resident.
 
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kdeome said:
If the OP needs help disposing of those Preban mags amd wants to avoid blocking, I will do the honorable thing and help him out. 🫡
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Is this the same person who not long ago asked about storing his stash of preban mags in MA after new law? I think he (or someone else) was trying to find out if they could still unload them.
 
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