Blocking Pre Ban Magazines to 10 Rounds

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Just looking for some thoughts, in regard to the legality now, of blocking mags.

Is just opening a mag and adding a wooden dowel good enough?

Really don’t want to cover the baseplate with a giant gob of glue.

I am aware of the verbiage in the new bull….. law.
 
florida-lots1123 said:
Just looking for some thoughts, in regard to the legality now, of blocking mags.

Is just opening a mag and adding a wooden dowel good enough?

Really don’t want to cover the baseplate with a giant gob of glue.

I am aware of the verbiage in the new bull….. law.
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Can you add actual law in your post. Looking for it myself right now
I think good idea to quote it for reference at the start to these threads
 
powerman said:
Can you add actual law in your post. Looking for it myself right now
I think good idea to quote it for reference at the start to these threads
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"Large capacity feeding device"

, i) a fixed or detachable magazine, belt, drum, feed strip or similar device
that has a capacity of, or that can be readily converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition or more than 5 shotgun shells; or (ii) any part or combination of parts from which a device can be assembled if those parts are in the possession or control of the same person
 
florida-lots1123 said:
"Large capacity feeding device"

, i) a fixed or detachable magazine, belt, drum, feed strip or similar device
that has a capacity of, or that can be readily converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition or more than 5 shotgun shells; or (ii) any part or combination of parts from which a device can be assembled if those parts are in the possession or control of the same person
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A dowel or block isn’t gonna cut it. If you can pull the baseplate off and some piece of wood or other blocking device falls out it would be no different than having the lcfd in its original configuration. It would have to be permanent such as using epoxy or jb weld.
 
DJBrad said:
A dowel or block isn’t gonna cut it. If you can pull the baseplate off and some piece of wood or other blocking device falls out it would be no different than having the lcfd in its original configuration. It would have to be permanent such as using epoxy or jb weld.
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Law says, readily converted.
Of course vague, like the rest of the the law.
 
This is a losing proposition... i.e., permanently ruining your pre-ban magazines just to please Maura. They still have value, after all, despite the new (and unconstitutional) Monstrosity anti-2A law.

Don't cheap out. Buy some 10-round magazines for now... or buy some brand new full-capacity magazines and ruin them instead. You can thank me later.
 
EJFudd said:
This is a losing proposition... i.e., permanently ruining your pre-ban magazines just to please Maura. They still have value, after all, despite the new (and unconstitutional) Monstrosity anti-2A law.

Don't cheap out. Buy some 10-round magazines for now... or buy some brand new full-capacity magazines and ruin them instead. You can thank me later.
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Not cheaping out. I don’t want to ruin them.
That is the point.
 
florida-lots1123 said:
"Large capacity feeding device"

, i) a fixed or detachable magazine, belt, drum, feed strip or similar device
that has a capacity of, or that can be readily converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition or more than 5 shotgun shells; or (ii) any part or combination of parts from which a device can be assembled if those parts are in the possession or control of the same person
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You’ve read that law and you somehow think that just dropping a wooden dowel into the mag would be in accordance with the law? Really?

If you dissemble the mag to install a wooden dowel, then you can also disassemble the mag to remove the wooden dowel. That clearly would be “readily converted to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
 

Magazine Blocks

5, 10, and 15 round magazine capacity limiters for rifle and pistol magazines of all sizes. Convert magazines to hold 5, 10, or 15 rounds.
www.magazineblocks.com www.magazineblocks.com

They used to be Cal Mag Blocks but have since changed their name. I assume there would be a way to drive a rivet through and use epoxy to render permanent modification. Once you go down this road there is no turning back so only use new mags if you want to preserve your preban ones.
 
M1911 said:
Oh come on.

There is no way in hell that you honestly thought that removing the baseplate to remove the dowel isn’t “readily converted.”

Just buy some f***ing 10 round magazines.
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^^^This. Just buy the f***ing 10 round mags on deltateamtactical they’re dirt cheap. With the time you take to make sure the blocker is flush, drive the rivet through and epoxy and hope it cures correctly you could have just spent ordering 10 round mags with the click of a few checkout step buttons.
 
Rocky Mosasaurus said:
^^^This. Just buy the f***ing 10 round mags on deltateamtactical they’re dirt cheap. With the time you take to make sure the blocker is flush, drive the rivet through and epoxy and hope it cures correctly you could have just spent ordering 10 round mags with the click of a few checkout step buttons.
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Was looking for ideas.
Maybe something that looks and feels,
( not easily removable ).
 
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Picton said:
I think putting in a rivet is about the lowest level of "permanent" that would satisfy this ban.
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"think" is the correct word. Nobody knows how this will be interpreted.

For example, it is "Readily convertable" if it requires an additional part or a replacement for a part that has been modified?
What if someone of orginary welding skill can convert a mag to > 10 rounds?
Or skill with a dremmel? Bridgeport?
What if you hve a cnc, hydraulic press, welding jig, spring winding machine and a bunch of sheet stock and spring wire?
 
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pupchow said:
Sounds like someone is looking to configure a pban mag to make it compliant (marketable), while retaining the ability to de-configure the mag to its original configuration.
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Glad you posted that so that I didn't have to. [laugh] Unfortunately, Massachusetts law is not the same as eBay's (wink-wink) magazine rules.

I think the OP just needs to set himself or herself up with a table at a NH gun show... and let nature take its course. ;)
 
Rob Boudrie said:
Any

"think" is the corrct word. Nobody knows how this will be interpreted.

For example, it is "Readily convertable" if it requires an additional part or a replacement for a part that has been modified?
What if someone of orginary welding skill can convert a mag to > 10 rounds?
Or skill with a dremmel? Bridgeport?
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I'd like to see how long it would take one of my "peers" to demonstrate readily converting an OE Glock 17 mag.
 
EJFudd said:
Glad you posted that so I didn't have to. [laugh] Unfortunately, Massachusetts law is not the same as eBay's (wink-wink) magazine rules.

I think the OP just needs to set himself or herself up with a table at a NH gun show... and let nature take its course. ;)
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Part them out as salvage. Repair kits?
 
florida-lots1123 said:
No, you are right. I am not a idiot. Was looking for ideas.
Maybe something that looks and feels,
( not easily removable ).
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Look, if it is easily removable then it isn’t in accordance with the law. It is that simple. It has been that simple since Chapter 180 of the 1998 laws. There is no wall-hack that would let you legally use unmodified post-ban large capacity magazines in MA. This isn’t new. As much as I despise the abortion of the recent ban bill, this part isn’t new.

You can’t legally possess post-ban large capacity magazines in MA. Either permanently modify them, or store them out of state, etc. Yes, that sucks. But a lot of things suck. And that’s why I’m moving in a couple weeks.
 
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M1911 said:
You’ve read that law and you somehow think that just dropping a wooden dowel into the mag would be in accordance with the law? Really?

If you dissemble the mag to install a wooden dowel, then you can also disassemble the mag to remove the wooden dowel. That clearly would be “readily converted to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
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In fairness to the OP, a lot of dealers will just put a plastic piece in the mag to block it to 10 rds that is easily removed in about 10 seconds. I have't heard of any repercussions doing it this way so far...
 
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