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Incompetence. Sort of like the logic that an AR requires a trigger lock or secure locking device at home, but must be a locked case for transport.
New Jersey and Connecticut tried, no one really complied did they? Or at least so few it was ridiculous.
Don't have time to look it up right now, but hasn't the public safety committee pretty much been packed with inner city leftists in recent years? Not too many sane people left if memory serves me right.How did this shit get through the public safety committee without us noticing? In previous years we've gone to hearings and these things usually die in the committee. We're not paying enough attention?
This is the same crap that Linsky pulls every year but it's a bit worrying to see a favorable committee report.
Don't have time to look it up right now, but hasn't the public safety committee pretty much been packed with inner city leftists in recent years? Not too many sane people left if memory serves me right.
Good on you for doing that. I hope that others are doing the same...This pile of manure, known as Bill H.2095, is currently in the Ways and Means Committee. My rep happens to be a member of that committee, so I'm writing her today with my objections to the bill.
Here is a list of members in the committee:
If your rep is a member of this committee, I would encourage you to write a physical letter and send it by mail. Sending by email does not have same effect as mailing an old fashioned letter with a signature on it.
This pile of manure, known as Bill H.2095, is currently in the Ways and Means Committee. My rep happens to be a member of that committee, so I'm writing her today with my objections to the bill.
If your rep is a member of this committee, I would encourage you to write a physical letter and send it by mail. Sending by email does not have same effect as mailing an old fashioned letter with a signature on it.
Anyone have a good template I can use to write my rep. Hate to say it. Between school and work I simply do not have the time to sit and write the letter. Any free time more than 15 min I need to be studying.
No just stating what happened. Yes they became criminals but no one is going to jail....yet.By "not complying" you mean they quietly decided to become criminals, right?
Do you consider that a win?
All it did was prevented them from fighting--the state's victory is hardening like cement all around them.
I would describe a "win" as remaining law-abiding citizens with their Constitutional Rights acknowledged and in place.
No just stating what happened. Yes they became criminals but no one is going to jail....yet.
Even if that's possible it doesn't change the ballot box problem. Lets say I hit Powerball tomorrow and don't have to work, myself and a couple dozen pro 2a workers, over the next year might be able to hit the couch cushions and get 25,000 that give a shit. That's still not nearly enough to threaten pols over their position. It's a numbers game and the guns per capita / concerned gun owners/ district size ratios in MA don't work in our favor- and the antis already know this.
It would seem the principle of unintended consequences would come into play here. If I own pre-ban standard capacity mags and I have no plans to "register" my mags if this law passes, why wouldn't I head out to a free state and load up on pmags? When/if this lawe passes, doesn't the original mag ban that's part of the AWB cease to really matter?
Good point. Other than maybe making one's non-compliance easier to spot, the difference between pre and post ban becomes essentially moot: Neither can ever be loaded with more than 10 rounds, and neither can be used for anything other than at-home defense or target shooting (ex. EDC, self-protection beyond one's residence, hunting). The only distinction is one could legally hold a mostly unloaded, registered, pre-ban standard capacity magazine in their hand (or gun) in a few places. Anything and everywhere else would be verboten. This would become essentially ex post facto constructive dispossession of previously legal items. It shouldn't hold up in a court of law, but this is MA ...It would seem the principle of unintended consequences would come into play here. If I own pre-ban standard capacity mags and I have no plans to "register" my mags if this law passes, why wouldn't I head out to a free state and load up on pmags? When/if this lawe passes, doesn't the original mag ban that's part of the AWB cease to really matter?
There are easily that many, but that's not enough to forment political change. We're outgunned at the ballot box in most districts- and the handful of pro gun dems live in districts that don't make the rules. They're all outside of the cup. If we could get 100,000 pro 2a votes inside the cup it would be something, but most gun owners in this state don't care.... I think 2/3rds of them are "moonbat lite" types, etc. It's at the point where the cup moonbat pols won't even listen to reason because they know numerically they don't need our votes...
Worse yet, if accused of EVER (after this bill becomes law) putting 11 rds in a registered mag . . . how do you go about proving that you never did that? Proving a "negative" is a very difficult task.
Dirt shooter hobbyists! Let me ask you. Have you locked and loaded in defense of anything?Are there any MA attorneys who are interested in 2A political activism, or are they only in it for the paycheck?
If there were say 75 people who were willing to face arrest for staging a political protest, could they count on someone to represent them?
Not some assclown in a bad suit--someone competent--or better yet, someone with a level of comittment and legal genius?
Could they count on the MA 2A community to stand ready to help them post bail and fund their legal expenses (I.e. a Go Fund Me, etc)?
Could those 75 count on other 2A supporters ,numbering in the thousands--to be there, present, carrying concealed--or even just bother showing up in the first place?
Or at the end of the day, are gun owners in MA REALLY just dirt-shooter hobbyists?
Keep in mind that you are asking 75 people to become instantly unsuitable, even if all charges are eventually dropped. Suitability is the thumb that holds everyone in place.Are there any MA attorneys who are interested in 2A political activism, or are they only in it for the paycheck?
If there were say 75 people who were willing to face arrest for staging a political protest, could they count on someone to represent them?
Not some assclown in a bad suit--someone competent--or better yet, someone with a level of comittment and legal genius?
Could they count on the MA 2A community to stand ready to help them post bail and fund their legal expenses (I.e. a Go Fund Me, etc)?
Could those 75 count on other 2A supporters ,numbering in the thousands--to be there, present, carrying concealed--or even just bother showing up in the first place?
Or at the end of the day, are gun owners in MA REALLY just dirt-shooter hobbyists?
Hmmm is there a case that suitability is unconstitutional because it has a chilling affect on 1a?
I would disagree, I don't think anyone on NES would deny me an LTC or FID because of a single arrest 20 years ago, where the charges were dismissed. Would you? They only use suitability when there is no statutory reason to deny, and given how strick MA is, it has to be a pretty minor thing. But the threat is enough to get most to comply with unlawful add one to the requirements for an LTC. It's just easier to comply.I know of one coming up, but the problem with the suitability cases is we as gun owners apply the same standards.
The government did that during Katrina.With this corona madness going on, this would be a perfect time for our legislature to sneak some awful and draconian gun laws through in the middle of the night and claim it was for "emergency purposes". No hearings, no feedback, nothing, just wake up to a new law the next morning.
I just remembered about this bill and had the same thought you had. I think the session ends around the end of July. Wondering if its time to start contacting ways & means members?With this corona madness going on, this would be a perfect time for our legislature to sneak some awful and draconian gun laws through in the middle of the night and claim it was for "emergency purposes". No hearings, no feedback, nothing, just wake up to a new law the next morning.