Asaltweapon
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I have my grandmothers old 12ga that Joe says is OK to own that doesn’t have a serial number.
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No, it's not ambiguous. If you have an FFL07, you are a manufacturer and subject to the laws of manufacturers.
If you don't, you're not, and you're not.
The only ambiguity here is when the ATF decides you're making and selling too many guns as a private person. Then they can charge you with manufacturing without a licence.
If you're not in the business of manufacturing guns, you don't need a manufacturer's licence. This means you can make as many as you want, and sell them when you get bored of them. If you think you're being clever by making a ton of the same gun "for yourself" and then selling them with zero or low round count "when you're bored with them", the ATF will (can?) notice, and put you in jail for it.
But if you're making stuff for fun, shooting the hell out of them, and selling them when you want to fund another project, that's totally legal. You just can't be IN THE BUSINESS OF making guns.
The edges of when you need an FFL are somewhat fluid, so if you push the edges you could get in trouble.
Remember in the '90s when the Clinton administration decided there were too many FFLs, so they started yanking the FFLs of "kitchen table FFLs" who they determined were doing it as a hobby, and not as a business? Remember that? They yanked their FFLs because they were selling TOO FEW guns.
Fast forward a couple decades to the Obama administration and they want to force all the people who are selling too many guns to get FFLs, because they're "selling them illegally" (which of course is absurd, since they took the FFLs because they weren't selling enough earlier)
My point is, you have to be IN THE BUSINESS of manufacturing guns for the serial number requirement to apply, and if you're not in the business, the requirement does not exist. There's no question about that.
MaverickNH
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Biden considers regulating ‘ghost guns,’ other executive actions to curb gun violence
The president’s movement on guns has, so far, been more meetings than action.
www.politico.com
"Bocanegra [senior director of the progressive Heartland Alliance's READI Chicago chapter] said he was happy with the audience he received at the White House. But he still expressed frustration that white-led gun control groups appeared to be getting more attention after he had spent days helping the Biden transition on policy."
Ha! Yes - those white-led gun control groups, like Everytown and Giffords, need to step aside and let Black-led and Brown-led gun control groups have their say. If young Black males are going to stop shooting one another, it shouldn’t be because of anything white folks did. Aside from spending white folks money, they should have no say in reducing Black community gun violence.
Black Lives Matter less if white people save them.
AHM
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Too late - you missed it.
Asaltweapon
NES Member
Que another Maura post in 7. 6. 5.
Must be a bogus tweet; no request for urgent donations.
VetteGirlMA
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Did it include a fundraising link? Or a link to contribute to Wayne's wardrobe upgrades?
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