best 80% lower you can buy

[greencobra]

Anyone have ideas on this. Don't want a 30 dollar hunk of crap, there's a reason they're 30 bucks. I'm thinking cast, not billet. Any thoughts on this or am I going to waste money for nothing.

 

[Archilochus]

Assuming AR here.... I'd stay away from cast. 7075 forged or billet is good to go. If unspecified - ask the manufacturer.

 

[greencobra]

Assuming AR here.... I'd stay away from cast. 7075 forged or billet is good to go. If unspecified - ask the manufacturer.

I think I ment forged, my bad. Thanks.

 

[weldingmachine]

Most are forged aluminum, the unique looking ones are billet.
If looking at forged, most are identical no matter the name. (there aren't many forging facilities making them).
Stay away from plastic & you should be ok.

 

[Mustang5L5]

Of the ones I've handled, pretty much the same.

Some are a little more complete those in having everything other than trigger pocket done and just requiring that milled out.


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[slap shot]

This is by far the best lower you can buy. Not sure if Johnny still has any available but i'd give it a shot.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/239876-Precision-Point-Firearms-Billet-Lowers!

 

[mclina]

Ares are nice. I like the billet ones mainly because I like the integral trigger guard. TR Enabling also makes very nice lowers, and they have the added bonus of set screws on the bolt catch and takedown pin detent.

Ares mills the takedown pocket for you, TR doesn't.

 

[dlarge]

This is by far the best lower you can buy. Not sure if Johnny still has any available but i'd give it a shot.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/239876-Precision-Point-Firearms-Billet-Lowers!

He doesn't. I asked him. He said "doing new batch now check back next month". I'll be checking again next month.

 

[Golddiggie]

This is by far the best lower you can buy. Not sure if Johnny still has any available but i'd give it a shot.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/239876-Precision-Point-Firearms-Billet-Lowers!

Nice lower, but NOT an 80% lower like the OP wants...

Look at the billet ones offered by Ares (7075 aluminum), or one of the QD models. I prefer billet since they have integrated [larger] trigger guards. IMO, it's more a matter of looks if you go forged or billet at this point. Just make sure you don't buy any from a guy named Wayne, that has a place in Maine...

 

[slap shot]

Nice lower, but NOT an 80% lower like the OP wants...

Look at the billet ones offered by Ares (7075 aluminum), or one of the QD models. I prefer billet since they have integrated [larger] trigger guards. IMO, it's more a matter of looks if you go forged or billet at this point. Just make sure you don't buy any from a guy named Wayne, that has a place in Maine...

Damn, my bad. I like Ares Armor for 80%. I picked a few of theirs and the signature III model one is beautiful.

 

[Davidk]

I have had great results with http://utarms.com I think that you have to call them to order, not on website

 

[7.62x39]

Ares are nice.

I like Ares Armor for 80%.

Ares does not make lowers, they do however happen to sell Tactical Machining lowers. I usually buy them directly from TM, but I have bought them through Ares as well.

 

[7.62x39]

Anyone have ideas on this. Don't want a 30 dollar hunk of crap, there's a reason they're 30 bucks. I'm thinking cast, not billet. Any thoughts on this or am I going to waste money for nothing.

Nobody has offered a cast lower for sale, for years.
The reason they are so cheap right now is because during the post sandy hook demand everybody who made them added more CNC machines and started cranking them out 24/7.

Now that, that has passed and the pipeline is full, they still need to keep those machines busy somehow.

 

[Varmint]

is there some advantage to casting vs billet or forging?

 

[71montess]

Casting means it has the ability to crack, it is not able to stand up to rough treatment, but as a range gun, which is most of the Ar's, it will work. As said I don't know of any casting lowers made today.

 

[7.62x39]

is there some advantage to casting vs billet or forging?

Just research the manufacturing techniques themselves, forgetting the actual application itself.

Casting will always be the red headed step child of those 3 processes (whether talking ARs or widgets) A casting will never be as strong as the other two methods. But it is cheaper and faster to mfg

 

[slugworth]

The thundergun ones from the gunco group buy were outstanding!!! Best I've seen....

 

[7.62x39]

The thundergun ones from the gunco group buy were outstanding!!! Best I've seen....

They are nice, I wish I had bought more. Maybe we'll do another GB on them, if there is enough interest.

 

[slugworth]

They are nice, I wish I had bought more. Maybe we'll do another GB on them, if there is enough interest.

I'm in for a few for sure!!

 

[akma]

Ares does not make lowers, they do however happen to sell Tactical Machining lowers. I usually buy them directly from TM, but I have bought them through Ares as well.

I did not know that. The ones I got from Ares were pretty nice forged 7075. The TM AR jig is very nice.

 

[greencobra]

This is by far the best lower you can buy. Not sure if Johnny still has any available but i'd give it a shot.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/239876-Precision-Point-Firearms-Billet-Lowers!

look good but not 80% are they?

ETA: just saw someone else picked up on this.

 

[SJan]

Just research the manufacturing techniques themselves, forgetting the actual application itself.

Casting will always be the red headed step child of those 3 processes (whether talking ARs or widgets) A casting will never be as strong as the other two methods. But it is cheaper and faster to mfg

Throughout the manufacturing world, It is possible for a quality casting to be stronger than a lousy forging.

When it comes to AR lowers, I don't think that was ever the case.

 

[Golddiggie]

I did not know that. The ones I got from Ares were pretty nice forged 7075. The TM AR jig is very nice.

The jig from aimsmall (from calguns.net) is far better than the TM jig...

 

[me109g4]

http://www.tacticalmachining.com/80-products/80-ar-15-lower-receiver.html

This is their Gen 2 receiver that has the rear area already milled out. they have jigs too. I did one of their Gen 1 receivers and it came out great. This is where Ares get their receivers.

 

[WhiteTiger]

They are nice, I wish I had bought more. Maybe we'll do another GB on them, if there is enough interest.

I'd be in for a few!

 

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[akma]

The jig from aimsmall (from calguns.net) is far better than the TM jig...

Do you have a link to that jig so I can see it myself.
Thank you

 

[413dan]

They are nice, I wish I had bought more. Maybe we'll do another GB on them, if there is enough interest.

interested as well




anybody recommend a jig, was thinking ares armor

 

[Terminator03]

interested as well




anybody recommend a jig, was thinking ares armor

Same here! If there is another GB, I'm interested.

 

[7.62x39]

...It is possible for a quality casting to be stronger than a lousy forging...

Of course. But We are talking about comparing mfg methods here all else being equal. If the mfg in question has any decent CQ in place, that lousy forging never leaves the factory.