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Bernie Sanders Wants to Ban ALL Firearms Used for Self Defense
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but as I remember, super delegates may pledge their support, but can vote for the other party at the convention.
Of course, the real best case scenario is if Bernie runs 3rd party.
He is an Independent, after all.
And, that would really put the screws to the "old hag from Chicago".
What did we really expect? Chicago has been the home of dirty cheating politicians for over 50 years. And mostly Democrats at that.
Of course, the real best case scenario is if Bernie runs 3rd party.
He is an Independent, after all.
And, that would really put the screws to the "old hag from Chicago".
What did we really expect? Chicago has been the home of dirty cheating politicians for over 50 years. And mostly Democrats at that.
Deck is already stacked by Hillary:
The petition, which was launched Monday morning, has already garnered over 125,000 signatures in 24 hours, reads:
Superdelegates: Don’t Deny Democracy.
Commit to honoring the voters – let everyone know that you won’t allow your vote to defeat our votes. Announce that in the event of a close race, you’ll align yourself with regular voters – not party elites.
Bernie Sanders is on a roll among actual voters, with a blowout victory in New Hampshire (22 points!) and a virtual tie in Iowa. When Bernie is on the ballot – he can win. But in a close race, Superdelegates can snatch that victory away.
Only by pushing back against this possibility can we ensure that the candidate WE vote for becomes the nominee.
When reached for comment, petition originator Akleh told The Daily Caller, “The reason we started this petition is because we feel it is undemocratic for some 360 superdelegates who are apart of the party elite to throw their support behind a candidate before a single vote was cast in any state and in some cases before a debate was held.”Commit to honoring the voters – let everyone know that you won’t allow your vote to defeat our votes. Announce that in the event of a close race, you’ll align yourself with regular voters – not party elites.
Bernie Sanders is on a roll among actual voters, with a blowout victory in New Hampshire (22 points!) and a virtual tie in Iowa. When Bernie is on the ballot – he can win. But in a close race, Superdelegates can snatch that victory away.
Only by pushing back against this possibility can we ensure that the candidate WE vote for becomes the nominee.
As for what they hope to bring about, Akleh said, “We want these superdelegates to support the will of their constituents, so we are asking them to pledge not to tilt a close election, and let the voters decide.”
Since the launch of the drive, Akleh says they haven’t yet received any pushback. “We have had tremendous support as you noted and have yet to have any pushback,” he said. “How can anybody be against having the voters decide the nominee?”
Superdelegates are unique to the Democratic Party and have historically tended to favor leading establishment candidates with longstanding relationships with party elites.Asked what led to the pair starting the petition, Ulaj told TheDC, “What inspired me was more the fear that once again the voice of millions of voters would be silenced and disregarded in favor of the wishes of the elite and those who regularly contribute the maximum to campaigns.”
Both Akleh and Ulaj were surprised by how quickly the petition went viral. “Reaching 50,000 signatures within hours is incredible,” Ulaj told TheDC. “I don’t think any of us were expecting that, but at the same time we’re not surprised. People want the system to finally start working for them, and this is just another example of that.”
“We want our party to listen to us. The more people speak up, the more likely it is that the party and the superdelegates are to listen,” she continued.
Ulaj hopes Hillary Clinton agrees with their goal of ensuring superdelegates do not play a deciding role in the candidate selection. “I am sure that winning through superdelegates overriding the will of the people of her own party is not something Secretary Clinton wants either, and I think it would be incredibly destructive for the Democratic Party, and our democracy, if that is how our nominee was chosen.”
The Republican National Committee used the discrepancy between the popular vote results thus far and the delegate count. RNC spokeswoman Allison Moore told TheDC, “The DNC and their Party elites appear to be stacking the deck with superdelegates in favor of Hillary Clinton against the will of the voters.”
That it is.
Well, looks like it's a good thing.
According to the delegate numbers, less the super delegates, Sanders is leading her by 4 delegates.
So, her stunt is likely going to split that party right in half.
Of course, I'd have to see how this went down in 2008 too. Changeover to 0bama that is.
And, the DNC is going to pay a real heavy toll if they do that. Almost guaranteed defeat in November.
Looks like the GOP is trying hard to lose, as always.
And the DNC wants to make sure they outdo the GOP on it.
Did the political world take stupid pills this time, or what?
![[laugh]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/012.gif "Laugh [laugh]")
Gentlemen, Clinton 74% and Sanders 26%. What I told you this morning just happened. Sanders is done. He is going nowhere. Let's focus on how to stop Clinton, the real enemy!
kevin9
NES Member
Lets look at the numbers. First is the Republican primary:
Trump - 239,626
Rubio - 165,805
Cruz - 164,683
rest - 168,526
total - 738,640
Now the Democrat primary:
Hillary - 271,512
Sanders - 95,977
rest - 2,035
total - 369,526
First the bad news, Hitlery got more votes than any other individual candidate, including Trump. That would argue she has the inside track. However, the Democrat primary was only a 2-way contest, whereas the GOP primary was a 3-to-6-way race depending upon how you count.
Here's the rest of the good news. Republican turnout was almost twice the Democrat turnout. That says the GOP nominee, whoever that is, should have the inside track in South Caroline. And, each of the top 3 GOP candidates got more votes than Bernie. My advice to my progressive brethren is to vote your conscience; feel the Bern.
Trump - 239,626
Rubio - 165,805
Cruz - 164,683
rest - 168,526
total - 738,640
Now the Democrat primary:
Hillary - 271,512
Sanders - 95,977
rest - 2,035
total - 369,526
First the bad news, Hitlery got more votes than any other individual candidate, including Trump. That would argue she has the inside track. However, the Democrat primary was only a 2-way contest, whereas the GOP primary was a 3-to-6-way race depending upon how you count.
Here's the rest of the good news. Republican turnout was almost twice the Democrat turnout. That says the GOP nominee, whoever that is, should have the inside track in South Caroline. And, each of the top 3 GOP candidates got more votes than Bernie. My advice to my progressive brethren is to vote your conscience; feel the Bern.
How many 'Republicans' will stay at home if Trump is the nominee?
kevin9
NES Member
Good question. Assuming he gets the nomination, I suspect it depends upon how much effort the GOP establishment makes to manage (read "muzzle") him as they did Palin.
If so, the corollary question becomes, will it be as many as the Democrats that will stay home if Hitlery is 'their' nominee?
The Dems seem to do a better job of supporting their candidate to promote the bigger picture (they're all more or less running on the same platform so it doesn't matter)
kevin9
NES Member
I would be shocked if that happened. The optics are too bad, 2 old white New Yorkers. I predict she'll pick someone like Julian or Joaquin Castro, a relatively young minority to try to appeal to the "Occupy something" millennials based on age and white guilt.
Lank
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imagine what Putin would do to this a$$hole...![[rolleyes]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/042.gif "Roll Eyes [rolleyes]")
Putin can have him.
Actually, I would love to see him, Obama and Hillary dropped off in down town tripoli
Whutmeworry
NES Member
Can't say I'd mind if they all suffered the same fate as Gaddafi.
I could see Bernie picking up Warren as a VP.. How do I get the animated "barfing" gif character?
We are our own worst enemy. Voting 3rd party or someone like Gary Johnson will only hurt us and secure a win for Hillary or Socialist Sanders.
We could have had Romney in 2012, but Democrats are better at voting. Also, reminds me of the same people that refused to vote for Scott Brown because he wasn't conservative enough... they are now living with Je-anne Sha-heennnn. Can't stand that lady. Let's not make the same mistake again.
Vote cruz if you don't like Trump come Tuesday, but if/when Trump is the nominee, we need to actually VOTE.
Shark_Cage
NES Member
If Hillary winds the nomination, Bernie will be found on a park bench.
I said it a few posts back... NONE of my gunz are for self-defense, they are ALL for hunting.
"Hunting what?" you ask...
"I prefer not to answer... "
Lank
NES Member
SLAYER!!!!!!
