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Ban. We don't like it, but it's coming this time.....
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rather than shop for body armor and stock up on ammo for coming SHTF scenarios, why not talk to people at a range on GOAL membership. There is no way that we only have 20k shooters in this state.
If MA shooters would unite under one banner, we could be bigger than any union or possibly all the unions combined in this state. We can positively do it, this year even, but we are not doing it.
If MA shooters would unite under one banner, we could be bigger than any union or possibly all the unions combined in this state. We can positively do it, this year even, but we are not doing it.
Everyone can run around throwing generational barbs, but it ignores legitimate information that can come from any person. In high school I was running around talking about personal responsibility and how non-action doesn't excuse people so sitting on the sidelines of tyranny isn't okay. Not saying every kid is magically wise beyond their years but if someone is genuine and expressing them-self in a way that isn't causing a direct physical harm I am inclined to listen to their full thought then accept or dismiss them on their own personal merits.
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There will be no national gun control. It's become political poison. The only thing I could see would be Republicans caving to magazine capacity limits for "assault rifles" and perhaps tougher background checks as a bone to throw to Democrats. The good thing is Democrats won't take the bone because it's not enough and the Republicans can say "hey we tried"
Massachusetts on the other hand will only get worse. As will all the other blue states.
Massachusetts on the other hand will only get worse. As will all the other blue states.
I don't think that kids can't see a difference between right and wrong, hell, even monkeys have concept of 'fairness" ... the issue how the information is presented and the problem is broken down.
CNN presents the case that evil NRA is out to murder all the school children.
CNN presents the case that evil NRA is out to murder all the school children.
I think politicians in Washington remember the price that the voters extracted in the next election after the initial 1994 AWB was passed. So I expect some changes at Fed level but not an AR ban. I’d hope national carry reciprocity part of compromise.
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Time to stock up on AR lowers.
Ooops
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Rockrivr1
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Time to stock up on AR lowers.
Ooops
It's too late. Looking online it seems prices skyrocketing at ludicrous speed. I was saving up to get a Tavor, but that is not going to happen anytime soon now.
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Kids don't have a say in shit, not unless they're being directed and funded by people like Soros to push an agenda.
the problem is compromise. there is no compromise. compromise what? freedom?
it's disturbing to me that the very protections from our government put in our constitution as the bill of rights are being taken away by the very entity in which they were designed from which to protect us.
In another thread I think back in 2005 scotus made a decision that the government or law enforcement (the same thing IMO) has no duty to protect the individual.
So what is the difference here. If the gov has no duty to protect then their argument about protecting the children by stripping constitutionally protected rights is invalid.
LTC/FID = infringement
4473 = infringement
states restricting non-resident = infringement
Gun Free Zones = infringement
AWB = infringement
approved roster = infringement
MG ban/special license = infringement
All gun control measure, regulations, laws, bans, restrictions = infringement.
Hasn't there already been too much compromise?
As Chairman Mao famously said "Political power grows from the barrel of a gun". The Founding Fathers knew this and, unlike any country before or since, granted political power to citizens by crafting the second amendment of the Constitution acknowledging the RIGHT to bear arms. Responsible ownership and skill with modern weapons is the source of American's citizens political power. Banning ownership is a power grab by the enemies of political freedom and is a very dangerous idea.
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In past you are right. Just infringement.
Going forward?
Do away with schools being gun free zones. Feds provide cash for initial training of armed school staff. National reciprocity part of deal. Dems can go along or be against protecting children.
In past you are right. Just infringement.
Going forward?
Do away with schools being gun free zones. Feds provide cash for initial training of armed school staff. National reciprocity part of deal. Dems can go along or be against protecting children.
Possibly, but what I am seeing is not all of this crap, but media/MSM are going full court press on this to try to peacock the whole thing.... to get pols to believe theres some kind of grassroots thing
going on instead of a few handfuls of whining teenagers and moonbats.
It's all pretty much predicated on how many politicians believe all the bullshit.
It is going to be pretty funny though watching people that vote incorrectly get eviscerated in mid term elections, though. People apparently have short memories of what happened to the dems after the
AWB....
-Mike
While that kid isn't a crisis actor he is part of the MSM machine, and crescent et al are basically exploiting him and a bunch of other kids from that school for their own gains.
There is no puppet conspiracy per se but anyone who doesn't see the MSM/anti collusion on this one is just being willfully blind- they were literally waiting for this kind of event to happen and they've been going non stop full
retard on it once given the opportunity. This was a planned, heavily coordinated hit by MSM/antis to try to over-represent/misrepresent some type of massive populist appeal for gun control measures- and everyone is
falling for it, sadly.
You want to know how gun control went down in the 90s? It was a subdued version of what we are seeing right now, same thing- "false majority" etc.
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Everybody keeps saying how different it is this time, I don't see it. I was attacked more, personally, for being a gun owner after Sandy Hook, including from some family. If I was a betting man I would say there will be some fiddling with NICS, I would be more concerned with state bullshit.
As far as business's pulling away from the NRA, I never used any of those discounts anyway.
As far as business's pulling away from the NRA, I never used any of those discounts anyway.
yeah, but that part about "shall not be infringed".
Going forward we need those things reversed.
reciprocity is BS. All it is doing is asking permission. State to state restrictions are infringements. Make guns federal and exempt, invalidate and void all state and local laws infringing on 2A rights. The federal gov and states should have no rights to restrict, regulate or otherwise infringe on any of the amendments in the BOR.
You just haven't been hit yet, you'll see/hear it sooner or later. The whining on TV etc is unrelenting and insufferable (and I've made a point of keeping that shit/noise box off 95% of the time). The media is basically exploiting children along with antis to go FR with this stuff, it is everywhere in the media cycle.
State stuff? We're already toast (although in the usual, it's MA so it doesn't actually mean much kind of way, lol) so that's kinda funny. If anything I would expect whatever kneejerk bullshit trump signs to not do much WRT ma residents, because we already have it 10 x worse here.
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Trump had a 2% chance of winning according to the screaming lesbians on TV. I believe the public's faith in big gov and big media is a lot less than most people realize. As pointed out above nothing federal is likely, blue states will double down. I really hope one goes fully off the rails. Suck to be in it but we need a state to go full on gun ban.
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600,000 abortions in the US/yearly, 250,000 medical/pharmaceutical caused deaths, some 1 in 25 males on autism spectrum...there is a depopulation agenda here, the powers that be want to disarm us before we recognize the elephant in the room.
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Most of the anit's I know know better, they just leave me alone now. I verbally bitch slapped all my family members who were giving me shit after SH.
The gun lobby is actually right around $10mm, per year, the $5,122,000 is the NRA only......
Wait, 5 million members and they are only spending a buck per member?
Woah! Big gun lobby.
And why do big gun lobbyists need a discount on rental cars.?ect
That would only seem to hurt grassroots members.
The libtards have no continuity of logic in their twisted message.
Woah! Big gun lobby.
And why do big gun lobbyists need a discount on rental cars.?ect
That would only seem to hurt grassroots members.
The libtards have no continuity of logic in their twisted message.
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