Baker Supports Use of Terrorist Watch List to Control Gun Rights

[the_shootist]

Remember when Democrats were all opposed to these actions when Bush was president? Now all of a sudden they are all in with their support.

Sort of like different chapters of a book...wouldn't you say? I think we're starting to see the climax building for the big ending of this novel

 

[GaryW]

Remember when Democrats were all opposed to these actions when Bush was president? Now all of a sudden they are all in with their support.

They will find a way to blame G. W. Bush - it's only a matter of time. "Never take credit for your mistakes. Find someone else and make them to blame."

 

[Hoover]

The NJ legislature passed this a year or two ago and christie signed it. He still supports it.

 

[Bfatz]

I sure these guys are on the list, go collect them yourself Baker.

 

[stinger35]

I wonder how many of us are on that list?

NES Canoe trip

 

[the_shootist]

I sure these guys are on the list, go collect them yourself Baker.

Funny thing is, they're probably NOT on the list

 

[beaker]

And they don't need anyone's permission to add anyone they want to the no-fly list...

 

[Squire]

No issue with letting them immigrate, just can't buy a gun.

The absurdity of this extra-judicial denial of Constitutional Rights by secret Executive Branch agents is on par with a Kafka novel.

 

[Realtor MA]

Who knows what it takes to be on the list?

The stroke of a pen by some bureaucrat

 

[the_shootist]

The stroke of a pen by some bureaucrat

Now here in Amerika

 

[Individualist]

http://www.wcvb.com/politics/baker-despite-tough-gun-control-laws-more-can-be-done/36843152

Here is Janet Wu's email address. [email protected] FWIW, I sent a letter of concern off to her. I would hope the ACLU challenge at least might be something she would report if there is a follow-up. May have no impact, but what the heck.

 

[ToddDubya]

I refuse to fly in a plane I didn't preflight myself and know who I'm flying with. I'm driving rather than flying to the Midwest this summer to visit family with my wife and though longer, it'll probably be more enjoyable.

Loopholer.

 

[Hoover]

Big surprise, trump is open to the no fly list ban on buying guns.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/rubio-bush-kasich-trump/2015/12/06/id/704747/

But he's not a liberal.

 

[ochmude]

In the Marines I was stationed in Hawaii, but our higher headquarters was in Okinawa, so we would occasionally have to fly there to conduct regimental level training exercises. One day we were at Honolulu International trying to check in for a flight to Okinawa (we always few commercial), and our battalion intel chief was not allowed to check in for the flight. Somehow this Marine, who was flying on orders and also had a TS/SCI security clearance, ended up on the no-fly list. He missed the entire exercise and it took a few months for the issue to get sorted out.

 

[capt kev]

I once read about a 3 year old that managed to get himself on the no fly list and I have to say, I would feel much safer knowing he will no longer be able to just walk into a gun store and load up for war.

My nephew is on that list, he was flagged when he was 4yrs old flying to disney! We're screwed.....

 

[not new guy]

I don't see how this passes legal muster, but if implemented we should fully expect the list to be expanded dramatically. It's a small step for them to take from where we are now, which is a world where the US government labels people as potential domestic terrorists for believing in liberty and the constitution.

 

[not new guy]

And you have to be a special kind of stupid to not see the problems with the proposal.

 

[robjax]

it's a dangerous tool for all Americans when you create a list and nobody knows how to get on it or even if they are on it until they try to fly or buy a gun. Then there is no way to get off of it....very dangerous for America indeed.

 

[pdm]

And bang! We're a banana republic.

 

[robjax]

I hope Baker's name gets on the list...lmao...

 

[Squire]

Big surprise, trump is open to the no fly list ban on buying guns.
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/rubio-bush-kasich-trump/2015/12/06/id/704747/
But he's not a liberal.

The difference between Rep and Dems isn't conservative or liberal. They both have co-opted those terms, and they don't mean what each represents. If anything, "liberal" and "conservative" reflect economic position, ie who they think should own the means of production.

They are all Statists, and the difference in their policies reflects the political basis from where they draw their power, which, ironically, both sides usurp from the People who put them in power.

 

[the_shootist]

The difference between Rep and Dems isn't conservative or liberal. They both have co-opted those terms, and they don't mean what each represents. If anything, "liberal" and "conservative" reflect economic position, ie who they think should own the means of production.

They are all Statists, and the difference in their policies reflects the political basis from where they draw their power, which, ironically, both sides usurp from the People who put them in power.

^^^THIS^^^

 

[allen-1]

In the Marines I was stationed in Hawaii, but our higher headquarters was in Okinawa, so we would occasionally have to fly there to conduct regimental level training exercises. One day we were at Honolulu International trying to check in for a flight to Okinawa (we always few commercial), and our battalion intel chief was not allowed to check in for the flight. Somehow this Marine, who was flying on orders and also had a TS/SCI security clearance, ended up on the no-fly list. He missed the entire exercise and it took a few months for the issue to get sorted out.

This is a textbook example of what's wrong with the no-fly list.

 

[Big_Red]

Funny thing is, they're probably NOT on the list

I think you need to be in some way documented in order to get on the list. These ese's are probably undocumented.

 

[atilla]

and then baker told the voters he was a republican!

baker sucks, trump sucks, basically anyone in favor of this kind of bullshit sucks. period.

 

[daveyburt]

search if you dare
haha

http://www.no-fly-list.com/

 

[Lcstyle]

It's no surprise statists are in favor of this, while constitutionalists and libertarians are against it.

Secret lists. Welcome to communist USA comrade. Where list flys you to Guantanamo.

If the terrorists cause the US of A to turn into Britain, a surveillance non free state, then they don't have to kill us physically. They'll have succeeded killing us spiritually and conceptually.

Half of America is already mentally dead sheep.

[video]https://youtu.be/wcMVMStrlxs[/video]

 

[robjax]

So you get on the list because you are suspected of something.....anything really....and you have committed no crime but because you are on the list you lose rights without due process. No probably cause....no crime and you are criminalized. This needs to be challenged and this can not hold up.

 

[426wedge]

We will be NY. We will be CT.

 

[not new guy]

We're in serious trouble if an idea this ridiculous is getting any sort of bipartisan support.