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Bad day at the range with the 357

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by gulfmp, Aug 4, 2018.

  1. whatluck

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    Thanks. Sorry for being over-inquisitive. Whenever I see one of these threads I like to ask for posterity and historical purposes, for the benefit of anyone who ever googles 'ruger security six barrel separation' 'ruger barrel thread failure' 'remington .38 LRNSJ overpressure' etc etc.
     

  2. Squire

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    Anyone have suggesting for inspecting revolvers for signs this might be imminent?

    I have Ruger Super Redhawk in 44mag that I shoot rarely but when I do it's with standard 240 gr and usually a cylinder of these for practice.

    Heavy .44 Magnum +P+ Pistol and Handgun Ammo (340gr)

    Heavy .44 Magnum +P+ Pistol & Handgun Ammunition
     
  3. whatluck

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    I make a habit of checking the timing, inspecting the forcing cone, checking spent cases for overpressure, and checking the throat of the bbl.

    None of these would prepare you for a metallurgical failure. I think only an XRay or some kind of ultrasound test would be able to tell you, maybe.
     
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  4. Zappa

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    Don't even bother wasting your money shipping it back to Ruger, they won't fix it, you're screwed.

     
  5. gulfmp

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    Here is the lot number for the ammo. I don’t think that the ammo is the issue though. If something was double charged from the factory, wouldn’t the frame sustain outward damage instead of just the barrel blowing off?
     

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    Have to ask if that revolver was made to eat .357 Magnum rounds... AFAIK, if it's not marked for '357 Magnum' it's not [usually] a good idea to run those through it. If it's not, even if you ran those through before, you could have been building up to this failure for some time.

    Glad my GP100 is rated (on the barrel) for .357 Magnum rounds.
     
  7. whatluck

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    Youre right its probably not ammo. Just want to collect the data anyways. For science.
     
  8. gulfmp

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    It’s a true 357. I wouldn’t want to be the one to try to shoot a 357 with just any lesser revolver!
     
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    Ok, couldn't tell from the pic you posted showing the damage... Might be worth sending a message off to Ruger to SEE what they'll do (if anything) for ya. Or you could find something else to do with it. Beer tap handle comes to mind. [rofl2]
     
  10. Harpua

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    Goes to show any gun can have it's hiccups. Ruger revolvers I've had seemed like tanks. Hope the shooter is ok.
     
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    How is the injured person doing? How bad was his injury?
     
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    This. ^
     
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    Not an expert by any means, but it sort of looks like that jagged section of the break may have been broken for a while.
     
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    Agreed- is that corrosion showing at the break?
     
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    Holy crap...I hope the injury is not serious. sucks about the gun.
     
  16. gulfmp

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    Just some flash burn.
     
  17. gulfmp

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    Who wants to see what shooting 357’s from the ultimate snub nose revolver is like?
     
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    IDK, .357 lever gun rounds from the scandium j frames is alot of fun.
     
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    i'm buying into the inferior casting. good luck with this, let us know the outcome.
     
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    Ruger will not touch this, their defense will be "who knows what was shot out of it in the past 30 or so years". Best bet is to pay the shooters medical bills and buy him a 22 revolver to build confidence back up. Maybe offer him a new package of underwear also.
     
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    Just powder residue, I believe.
     
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    Call a lawyer?
     
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    For a number of reasons I don't like to give new shooters a revolver. One is that if they happen to put their hand next to the cylinder gap they can get seriously hurt. Also its not always clear whether it going to put a live round in the chamber, because you can get confused as which way the cylinder will rotate when advanced. Also, with a semi auto, there's less felt recoil.
     
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    very odd...is that a stainless security 6? looks like it needs a trip to Ruger's metallographers... you'd think that overpressure would give a longitudinal split (circumferential stress) & show signs of yielding.... & that any bar/extrusion flaws would be in a longitudinal direction as well...
     
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    ^this
    would raise my suspicion for a squib
    hopefully the noob and his finger are OK
     
  27. mac1911

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    Thats what i was thinking.
     
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    Ruger no longer supports the Security Six. I need a part for one back before 1987 (when I moved to the DPRM) and have to get it from Numrich Arms since Ruger informed me no parts available.

    Maybe they will replace it with a GP100.
     
  29. Zappa

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    The gun frame may be cast, but the barrels are forged.
     
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    Are you the original owner of the gun or did you buy it used? If used, it's possible that the barrel was removed or replaced and the threads screwed up. Jack.
     
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