Attention Mass. politicians and other liberal pukes....She DIDN'T HAVE TO DIE!!!!

I'm not a NH hater but I get pissed when people suggest people just uproot their whole existence and move due to gun laws. I love NH...I ski there every winter, camp there most summers, visit extended family there multiple times year round. It's still too rural for me. It's not how I want to live. I have nothing against people who do like living there. Don't read too much into what I wrote. It is the "woods" compared to Boston. I work in finance. No city in NH that I'm aware of has a job for me. I know this for a fact. I like my career. MA gun laws blow. That's not enough to make me want to move. I'm not defending MA politics, I'm merely saying there's a lot about my state that I like despite the shitty gun laws....I like our geography, early American history, the city for it's cultural things, restaurants etc. Liking Boston doesn't make me a Boston elitist. I like that Boston has a lot of big city offerings but isn't actually the size of NYC or Chicago. I like that even if it has more crime than a little town in NH it's still a pretty safe city. I'm not an elitist at all. I'm simply content, overall, with my life even if I hate the politics here. I'm not letting MA gun laws and taxes consume my life, certainly not the extent that I feel I need to uproot my whole life. Not wanting to move to NH isn't NH bashing.

I never commented on why NH is getting screwed up just that it is. It's a blue state now. I never attributed that to MA transplants. That was other people in this thread. You're probably right that it's college indoctrination.

I did misspeak about the tax burden, even with the ridiculous property taxes, it's still not as bad as MA. I can admit when I'm wrong. But I laugh a the concept of a place having the motto "live free or die" and then handcuffing people who get caught with a gram of pot. Free my ass.

"punks" are pussies who run from fights. I was responding in-kind to more or less name calling by some dickwad who suggests I'm a sellout bc I like my salary and my career, saying I'm giving up freedom and he knows my price. He can eat a fat bag of cocks. Don't get me wrong, I hate the MA political machine, taxes etc but until

You can sh*t on Boston sports for being elitist all you want. It's part of what makes sports fun. I like my teams.

I never once bashed Montana. Where'd that come from? Montana's awesome. I don't want to live there either though. I said that when NH gun laws end up onerous the person who advises everyone in MA to move out to NH or STFU should do the same and maybe move to Montana.

Harcore Obama voting democrats who get riled up when you mention more gun control should probably get checked out for multiple personality disorder or stop voting for people who are trying to take their rights away.


I'm concerned as to why you are so "Mass defensive" and NH bashing here.

You clearly don't have a clue what you are talking about if you call NH "the woods". You think Concord on south is the woods? Its a free version of MA with better people, etc.

You are soaking wet if you think its MA liberals that are screwing up NH. This has been shown over and over again on this forum via election data that the reddest voting areas also have the highest % of mass transplants. MA people generally move to NH to get away from crazy liberal politics, crime and gun laws. Stop spreading false info. Most NH moonbats, spending 4 yrs in central/northern NH myself, are bred in place or move from places like NYC. Alot of kids in my generation from NH had the "conservative hippie" type parents/upbringing and they kept the hippie but went over to the more liberal side with college, etc. Knew many an NH person who was hippie/conservative when entering college and liberal on the way out. They are bred in place, cant say that enough. When you never see the crime and disgustingness associated with liberal people, cities and policy, you more readily accept in college that its the ideal way of the world. Couple that with the relatively new wave of media which allows for more ready liberalization vs working the farm and staying conservative and you have the recipe for this. The media is a very stong manipulative tool and controlled by the left. People in the sticks that have never experienced the city life/thug life/welfare life/anything associated with liberals life are drawn to it because its glamorized in the media.

You are also very screwed up if you think NH is gonna be MA in terms of gun laws in 10 years time. You fail to see through your Mass blinders that are firmly planted on your face (which is starting to head up your a$$) that much of what MA does to us with respect to firearms derives from political POWER. The local king (police chief) can do whatever the F he wants with your permit and thus guns. The AG can intimidate people into not selling here. She has people working for her who she can pay to look for ways to screw us. They can push handgun regulations (the list) and not worry about push back from a liberal and complicit legislature. None of that exists in NH. The elected officials are not paid at all contrast to MA where they make $150K or more. There is no money in the system and no major expectation of power by many in the system. The underhanded tactics use to do alot of what is done to us will never fly in NH, they could not fly in NH. Vermont and Maine are decidedly more liberal than NH, tell me why in gods name then, that any of the mag restrictions proposed in the wake of Newtown were DOA even in ME and VT??? There is no appetite for it there and just because somebody votes blue does not mean they are a MA style liberal (Mass blinder alert again, take em off for a second). I know many a hardcore democrat in northern New England, hardcore Obama voters, you name it who flip out if you mention restricting their guns.

A recall of some democrat idiots in a Colorado county who voted for gun restrictions there was lead by DEMOCRATS. Blue in other states does not always mean what it means in MA with respect to guns. You are being a very narrow minded and overly defensive of the homeland person right now. You seem to have too much of that old Boston arrogance in you. Newsflash, I travel all over the country live in other places of the country and work everyday with people from all over the USA, nobody outside 495 buys your "I'm special because I'm from Boston" BS.

How is somebody a punk for "running out of state"? If it works for their career and lifestyle, more power to them. Why are you bashing people who move out?

I understand there are great jobs in MA, like yours, its also the reason that you can't "starve the beast" like some suggest. There are always going to be (usually liberal) people *with the right skills* rolling in to take the jobs offered in metro Boston. That said, you are too defensive of the 2nd rate city that is Boston. Its not world class, I'm a nocturnal beast and when I'm in Boston everything is sealed up by 1 or 2am. World class cities are hopping and have something to do/more than 2 places to eat 24/7. Boston sports? haha, give me a break. Boston people = elitist for no good reason. The rest of the country realizes this and you would know that if you ever left. You bash Montana and KY, Montana is out of this world awesome. You seem to just like concrete and buildings and lights, man made crap. Sorry about that, you are missing out.
 
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I'm pretty damned sure that any of us moving to any other state would not have changed the outcome of this heinous crime.
 
That's it. That's the great answer? We should all run. Move. Move away from our well paying, un-"moveable" jobs. Move from our families, our friends, our homes. !

If freedom is a priority to one, then yes. You are obviously comfortable living in a police state full of socialists.
(or you'd be gone and not whining)

Not everyone can pack up and move out of this piece of shit state. Besides just work and family, sometimes other things are stopping people

Yes, "other things" like the uncertainty of change. The security of a comfortable life in a gilded cage and being told what to read, what to eat, how to live your life vs the possibility of having less government intervention in your life is just too much for some to bear.

Guess what ? Jobs are always available if you are flexiable, kids make new friends and family can visit or choose to move.

Again it comes to priorities.

Soon enough the once great free state of New Hampshire will reach a critical mass and be overwhelmed and before you know it it'll turn into North Massachusetts.

Or one could move to where those desiring freedom and liberty actually have a chance to keep the socialists at bay.

I'm not saying you should donate money towards the cause but a little moral support wouldn't hurt.

Agents provocateur (or trolls) bother me not, I laugh at those cowardly enough to remain imprisioned (Yes, imprisioned, let's call a spade a spade here. "Shelter in place" because of a snowstorm ? Arresting those who dare to venture out and go to work ?) in that police state.

When will they roll out the bearcats and point machine guns at famlies for warrantless searches again ?

Moral support ? That's like yelling "Bail faster !" on the Titanic. [rofl]

I think the only way to fix this state is to have enough people leave and starve the beast. There's no other way since we are way past critical mass.

You at least "Get it."

I'd move to NH in a heartbeat as soon as they Blah, blah blah.

But then it would be Massachusetts, best you stay there comrad.
I'd suggest reading "A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" if you don't get the reference.

cja1987, thanks for summing things up succinctly. Another one who "Gets it".

in closing this ain't just about "gun laws". (Really ? [rollseyes] )

The way the Massachusetts gubbermint insinuiates itself into your everyday life is appalling yet 99% of you don't realise how invasive it really is. They feed the media exactly what they want you to believe and they do it relentlessly.

You've all been brainwashed into compliance and believing voting will actually change things, well go crap in one hand and wish for change, common sense or fluffy bunnies in the other.

What'cha got ? A handfulla crap.
 
In my hometown. Where I live and grew up. A "beautiful, young girl"....a "sweet angel who would help anyone"...an "amazing child and friend"....

Abducted in broad daylight on a South Boston street as she walked to the gym. Driven to ATMs where she, in hope that it would save her, withdrew cash from her account to give to the "poor disadvantaged young abductor(s)"...Even after meeting and complying with their demands, she is instead driven to Hyde Park and SLAUGHTERED as she begged for her life.

And you, you Massachusetts liberals, you politicians, court officials (make that the entire Mass. "judicial" system, and law enforcement officials who are complicit in disarming our citizenry, making it difficult to carry so much as PEPPER SPRAY in this Commonwealth of Puke-a-chusetts.

Yet another "terrible tragedy", yet another "senseless killing".....yet another innocent life taken by the SCUMBAG CRIMINALS you do your best to coddle, cajole and release back into society. Yet another headline. "Tragedy"...

Well, it's not a "tragedy", fellow Massachusetts citizens. It's yet another example of the DISGUSTING liberal dogma of "release" or "rehabilitate" or "gun control will solve the problem".

Had this, God forbid, been my youngest daughter, the "poor disadvantaged criminal(s)" would have received blasts of Fox Labs 5.3 Pepper Spray in their animal face(s), giving her time to at least seek flight, possibly saving her life. Had this been my oldest daughter, they would have received two .38 +P Hollow Point rounds to the chest from her S&W 442 airweight pocket rocket. And, had this been ME, they'd have received two 9mm +P hollow point rounds to the chest, and then one additional to the face (just for a nice finishing touch) from my pocket "BabyGlock" Model 26.

But this girl instead is force to live her last hour of her life in fear, in terror, in sheer horror before being butchered, pleading "No! Please??!! NO!!".....by the ANIMAL(S) YOU CONTINUE TO FLOOD THIS STATE WITH AND OFFER THEM AID AND COMFORT.

This one is SQUARELY ON YOU, all of you who seek to further disarm the average, law abiding citizen of the DISGUSTING state in which some of us are forced to reside (because we simply all can't, as many - including myself at times of disgust such as this - say in this forum "Get the hell out of this puke liberal state, since many of us own businesses, have jobs, families etc and are anchored here in this wonderful CommonPuke of Liber-Chusetts).

"Tragedy"??.....Nope.

Another innocent life taken, cut short by HUMAN SCUM. Another "terrible tragedy". Another wake, another funeral, another burial. More "Tears of Sadness" as the headline will read, as the scumbags' court appointed lawyer is already preparing his "my client is just getting his life back together" speech for the benefit of all of you liberals who HELPED MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

This one is on YOUR shoulders! This one is PARTLY YOUR FAULT.

This one is on YOU.
Holy crap. I would walk from springfield to boston to here this read to the legislature. What a great post. Those pigs in boston need to be called out for the scum enablers they are .REPS inbound.

Lets buy some postage for the man so we can mail this to every anti 2a POS in boston.
 
MODS: I strongly feel this gentlemans post should be a sticky. I would also like to propose the question to all anti Zimmerman people in the world.
If by some miracle a definitive video was to surface showing the Trayvon incident, showing it go down exactly how it was described would they still feel the same way?? So what if he was unarmed. If it showed Trayvon jump Zimmerman and beating him into the ground would they still not support self defense. Sadly the pukes would still say he had no right to defend himself and neither do you under any circumstances.
 
Tell me why you still live in Massachusetts if you find your way of life so detestable.

Piss and moan.

Pack up and move.

Which would improve your quality of life ?

FAIL.

Cut and run? Not so easy for everyone. I ****ing hate this statement that I see all to often on these boards.
 
Heard the same thing. The news anchor on WBZ seemed so proud to say that her daughter was going to the local police station to pick up a whistle. I'm sure that'll do a lot of good while the criminal is strangling them or cutting their throat. There won't be much whistling going on.
JFC!! What a bunch of stupid ****ing moron sheep. Just pathetic!!
 
More than likely, BPD would issue the LTC with Restrictions that would make it impossible to use a firearm for Self Defense outdoors. The fact is, this young woman's life, like many, is worth less in they eyes of the BPD and Political Leaders, than the lives of those deemed worthy of an unrestricted license.
Best regards.
You got that right. A ****ing license for pepper spray WTF!! There is a bill right now to change that. If these pukes cared anything for the citizens there would have been an emergency session after this slaughter to approve the change RIGHT NOW!! They only have such emergencies to take our rights and protections away.
 
yawn.

If freedom is a priority to one, then yes. You are obviously comfortable living in a police state full of socialists.
(or you'd be gone and not whining)



Yes, "other things" like the uncertainty of change. The security of a comfortable life in a gilded cage and being told what to read, what to eat, how to live your life vs the possibility of having less government intervention in your life is just too much for some to bear.

Guess what ? Jobs are always available if you are flexiable, kids make new friends and family can visit or choose to move.

Again it comes to priorities.



Or one could move to where those desiring freedom and liberty actually have a chance to keep the socialists at bay.



Agents provocateur (or trolls) bother me not, I laugh at those cowardly enough to remain imprisioned (Yes, imprisioned, let's call a spade a spade here. "Shelter in place" because of a snowstorm ? Arresting those who dare to venture out and go to work ?) in that police state.

When will they roll out the bearcats and point machine guns at famlies for warrantless searches again ?

Moral support ? That's like yelling "Bail faster !" on the Titanic. [rofl]



You at least "Get it."



But then it would be Massachusetts, best you stay there comrad.
I'd suggest reading "A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" if you don't get the reference.

cja1987, thanks for summing things up succinctly. Another one who "Gets it".

in closing this ain't just about "gun laws". (Really ? [rollseyes] )

The way the Massachusetts gubbermint insinuiates itself into your everyday life is appalling yet 99% of you don't realise how invasive it really is. They feed the media exactly what they want you to believe and they do it relentlessly.

You've all been brainwashed into compliance and believing voting will actually change things, well go crap in one hand and wish for change, common sense or fluffy bunnies in the other.

What'cha got ? A handfulla crap.
 
Every f**king politician in this state should be taken by the scruff of the neck and forced to watch the autopsy of some poor victim like this girl.
Watch every second of it and listen to the M.E.'s graphic discription of this persons last minutes of life.
Get a real good look at what your Bulls**t policies translate to in real life.
For Christ sake one of the prior attack victims had the guys god damn ID.
So sick of this messed up state.
Not to worry though, we have some new laws in the pipeline to screw over law abiding folks in Ma..
That'll strike some fear into those murdering scumbags out there.
 
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I'm not saying I don't agree with a lot of what the OP said. I think it's great and am circulating it....I agree they're culpable. I was merely pointing out that she could have had OC if she wanted to. but what are you saying? She was brainwashed? I was raised here too, I'm not much older than her and somehow the MA liberals and pols haven't managed to convince me to lay down and take it when some thug scum tries to rob me. I'm a huge proponent of personal responsibility, brainwashed by liberals or not. My point was that as bad as laws are here there's still legal methods of self defense readily available that she decided she didn't need and whether that decision she made is her fault or someone else's is a troubling concept I'm finding in this thread.
The problem is needing a license PERIOD!! If pepper spray was on every counter I am sure herself and many others would be carrying.
 
The problem is needing a license PERIOD!! If pepper spray was on every counter I am sure herself and many others would be carrying.

I agree. You shouldn't need a license for anything. You're missing my point.

The second part of your post is just speculation. Maybe they would maybe they wouldn't. No way to know that.
 
I agree with GlockJoe. Trying to improve the situation where you live is as honorable if not more honorable than running from state to state until there's nowhere left to go.

But you gotta know when to hold 'em, and when to fold 'em. I don't find it honorable to waste one's life fighting a losing battle--that's why I moved. You will die fighting a battle you can't win, and what honor is there in that?
 
All I have to say....

As usual, awesome posts!!!!!!!!!!

Me:

1) Born in Maine.
2) Educated in Boston.
3) Worked in MA and lived in Nashua, NH.
4) Moved to Waltham/Norwood to pursue who turned out to be an excellent wife.
5) Obtained LTC-A, got to bring my AR's, but not my M16 Shrike or Vector.
6) This story was straw that breaks camel's back. Wife and I mutually agree to move back to Nashua.
Future-7) M16 Shrike and Vector emerge from legal exile.

F this F'in state...
 
The problem is needing a license PERIOD!! If pepper spray was on every counter I am sure herself and many others would be carrying.

If OC were for sale without a permit, it would guaranteed be purchased and carried by many more people than it currently is. The application for the permit is handled just as any "carry" license it. It takes too much time and it takes a visit to the local Police Department. The visit to the Police might not be a big deal for people who live outside of Boston. Boston residents are required to go to Headquarters, not their local precincts. That means riding the Orange line to Ruggles as Parking is very scarce in the surrounding area. I'm sure the Licensing Authorities could make things easier but they don't want to. MisterHappy just posted a thread about the increase in demand for Mace permits in Boston.
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...484-city-boston-long-wait-mace-permits.htmled

Best regards.
 
If OC were for sale without a permit, it would guaranteed be purchased and carried by many more people than it currently is. The application for the permit is handled just as any "carry" license it. It takes too much time and it takes a visit to the local Police Department. The visit to the Police might not be a big deal for people who live outside of Boston. Boston residents are required to go to Headquarters, not their local precincts. That means riding the Orange line to Ruggles as Parking is very scarce in the surrounding area. I'm sure the Licensing Authorities could make things easier but they don't want to. MisterHappy just posted a thread about the increase in demand for Mace permits in Boston.
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...484-city-boston-long-wait-mace-permits.htmled

Best regards.
BINGO!!
 
But you gotta know when to hold 'em, and when to fold 'em. I don't find it honorable to waste one's life fighting a losing battle--that's why I moved. You will die fighting a battle you can't win, and what honor is there in that?

That's fair. And I don't want to splinter the forum in any way. We need to be sticking together. I'm just saying that while I'm here in Massachusetts, I'm going to try to make it a better place. In truth, I'd like to retire somewhere more rural. Maybe have some land where I can do some plinking from my back porch [grin].
 
That's fair. And I don't want to splinter the forum in any way. We need to be sticking together. I'm just saying that while I'm here in Massachusetts, I'm going to try to make it a better place. In truth, I'd like to retire somewhere more rural. Maybe have some land where I can do some plinking from my back porch [grin].

Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% in your corner and wish you the best. I just don't see any possibility of turning Massachusetts around. The only way I see is to starve the beast by taking your hard won earnings elsewhere. Nothing hurts a statist more than a revenue hit, but in any event I wish you all the best, sincerely.

And thanks to the OP. Your post is so right on I don't know where to begin. All I can do is let it stand as is. God bless you sir.
 
If OC were for sale without a permit, it would guaranteed be purchased and carried by many more people than it currently is. The application for the permit is handled just as any "carry" license it. It takes too much time and it takes a visit to the local Police Department. The visit to the Police might not be a big deal for people who live outside of Boston. Boston residents are required to go to Headquarters, not their local precincts. That means riding the Orange line to Ruggles as Parking is very scarce in the surrounding area. I'm sure the Licensing Authorities could make things easier but they don't want to. MisterHappy just posted a thread about the increase in demand for Mace permits in Boston.
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...484-city-boston-long-wait-mace-permits.htmled

Best regards.

DING DING DING!

If people could walk into a store and just buy it, they would. Needing to ask permission puts an onerous burden on the process which means people don't buy it.
 
Attention Mass. politicians and other liberal pukes....She DIDN'T HAVE TO DIE!!

Thank you OP for this excellent post. I will repost it because more people in this state need to hear it.
 
Attention Mass. politicians and other liberal pukes....She DIDN'T HAVE TO DIE!!

I just read the article. They handed out WHISTLES to women? Ok, I'm ****ing pissed. That's an insult. The women should have thrown those whistles back in the cops faces. This is bullshit, and I want to help fix it. What can I do to help?
 
Tell me why you still live in Massachusetts if you find your way of life so detestable.

Piss and moan.

Pack up and move.

Which would improve your quality of life ?

This. I don't understand what is so hard about moving. Have a house? Sell it. Have a job? Find a new one. Family / friends? THEY can visit YOU in a free state.

It is so easy and freedom is ***LESS THAN AN HOUR AWAY***. It's not like you will never see your family again, and at least you wont have to worry about your kids being raped and murdered by someone that should be in jail for the previous dozen crimes he's committed.

If you are living in MA, you are RESPONSIBLE for the conditions you live in. Move to NH or VT, and stop giving MA your income tax dollars. Move OUT of that shitty state and let the ones that are voting for these douchebag politicians be the ones being raped, robbed, and murdered. Either move, or grab your rifle and vote from the rooftops, because there is nothing else you can do. In MA, the gibs-me-dat Liberals will always outvote you. Always.

I am so sick of seeing the same post over and over;
"Waa waa my state is shitty"
"You know, NH is only 20 minutes away"
"WTF IDIOT I CANT DROP EVERYTHING AND MOVE"
 
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