mikeyp
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Oh him, he’s still basking in the glow of his Bump-Stock Ban.
And his red flag laws...and...
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Oh him, he’s still basking in the glow of his Bump-Stock Ban.
Those pistols weren't legal from 1994 until 2004 and still aren't in some states. For all that time time and the time before braces existed, there was no grey area with what was a pistol and what was an SBR. You put anything on the end of that buffer tube, it was an SBR to the ATF. The belief that because something that was not an NFA item yesterday will be one tomorrow won't happen because it sucks doesn't mean it can't happen.Um, EVERY AR pistol??? So if I pull the brace off of my tube, it's the same AR pistol they were selling before but no one was buying???? That's suddenly illegal??? Nahbrah.
AR pistols are ghey but the alphabet is beyond useless. Shall not be infringed.
Those pistols weren't legal from 1994 until 2004 and still aren't in some states. For all that time time and the time before braces existed, there was no grey area with what was a pistol and what was an SBR. You put anything on the end of that buffer tube, it was an SBR to the ATF. The belief that because something that was not an NFA item yesterday will be one tomorrow won't happen because it sucks doesn't mean it can't happen.
The only argument I can think of is because there are millions of these pistols that are based off rifles now in circulation. That wasn't the case for bump stocks, there were so few of them out there in comparison.
This seems to be all speculation right now, but the firm that is releasing this info probably has a fly near the ATF's head getting a heads up on what's being discussed behind the doors. It's possible this is just what's being discussed, it remains to be seen what will happen.
I think it's way too big to make AR/AK pistols AOW's, that's not gonna fly because nothing in the NFA act specifies that pistols must have a certain weight. It's simply rifled barrel without a stock, that's it, that's a pistol. If the ATF wants a judicial and/or executive bitch slap, they can go down that rabbit hole and enjoy because if there's anything that's going to rally the 2A crowd, it's to start adding shit to the NFA without an act of Congress.
Watch the video. He is trying, deep state commies at ATF are playing dirty pool.So where's Trump in all of this?
The very existence of the ATF is an infringement. Should have been ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS in 1939 but the defendant and his lawyer failed to show up.
I know this is NES, but when it comes to NFA items let's not talk crazy. The NFA and ATF combo is the single most dangerous threat to the 2nd Amendment, especially when the ATF is floating the idea of declaring legitimate pistols as SBRs/AOWs and have classified bump stocks as machine guns, which in the future can be used to declare semi auto's as machine guns.Not too versed in this side of the gun world, but it seems like all the guys who dabble in NFA items might as well go full auto. If you’re gonna be a felon, might as well do it in style.
Watch the video. He is trying, deep state commies at ATF are playing dirty pool.
Even Attila? Whoa girl, that's harsh! LOL...I've been reading that if Trump wins he's got a plan to do mass firings in the .fed for some of these faithless democrat bureaucrats. If he gets in I would expect that a lot of these people hopefully get sh*t canned. I'd love to see ATF agents being walked out of their office with their little cardbox box of family photos and big crocodile tears running down their cheeks while they call their spouses asking if the security guard position is still hiring. I'll buy Dom Perignon for that moment!
Idk, why do anything publicly before the election?This is just ATF guys positioning to keep their jobs if Biden gets elected.
Listening to the MAC stream now and speculation is this is to separate Trump from the base, but also to set the stage for Biden/Harris. Seems like right now the focus at ATF is imported AR/AK pistols will be AOW, but domestic made ones will not, however that will change quick with a Democrat run Executive branch.Idk, why do anything publicly before the election?
Black Lable Johnnie Walker for me for next Tuesday and A Little Bit of the Bubbly if Trump wins and does just that with the alphabet agencies.I've been reading that if Trump wins he's got a plan to do mass firings in the .fed for some of these faithless democrat bureaucrats. If he gets in I would expect that a lot of these people hopefully get sh*t canned. I'd love to see ATF agents being walked out of their office with their little cardbox box of family photos and big crocodile tears running down their cheeks while they call their spouses asking if the security guard position is still hiring. I'll buy Dom Perignon for that moment!
For everyone’s reference he’s talking about this:
View: https://youtu.be/u87NIIvofjU
Very serious stuff going on...
I'm not sure what you're getting at here.So could the ATF search every previously registered SBR, in theory anyways, to determine if there’s a ”foot fault” and that the registrant is in violation of this new BS?
I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
I have registered, tax paid, SBRs with real shoulder stocks (or whatever you call that part of a PS90). A gun with a shoulder stock attached is always a SBR/SBS, so this doesn't affect tax-paid SBRs making them need a different tax stamp...
Why would "every previously registered SBR" be an issue?
The ATF has never prosecuted any individual owner under 922r, much less a Form-1 building end-user.Fishing expedition by the ATF? I paid my tax stamp too, but given this interpretation I’m trying to figure out what its reach really is versus being limited to the shoulder brace matter on the Honey Badger. If I’m reading too much into it, then there’s nothing to worry about.I have registered, tax paid, SBRs with real shoulder stocks (or whatever you call that part of a PS90). A gun with a shoulder stock attached is always a SBR/SBS,
Firings are not enough. Miles long gallows in DC are required. Gallows, as far as the eye can see. These are not Americans.I've been reading that if Trump wins he's got a plan to do mass firings in the .fed for some of these faithless democrat bureaucrats. If he gets in I would expect that a lot of these people hopefully get sh*t canned. I'd love to see ATF agents being walked out of their office with their little cardbox box of family photos and big crocodile tears running down their cheeks while they call their spouses asking if the security guard position is still hiring. I'll buy Dom Perignon for that moment!