ATF FOIA re: bumpstock surrender numbers

[CoastieRon]

Credit reddit u/jayrady.

LOL 582 bumpstocks surrendered.... .

 

[not new guy]

Nearly all of them then?

 

[CoastieRon]

Nearly all of them then?

Hahahaha. I would have thought less would have been turned in honestly....

 

[enbloc]

Luckily only 600 were sold...

 

[Squire]

Luckily only 600 were sold...

...in the NES group buy...

 

[Waher]

I'm wondering if a large number of those were distributor or FFL inventory which was about to become worthless and written off for disposal.

 

[ThePreBanMan]

Won't hear about that in the news....Basically people who have them sending a big FU to .gov.

 

[headednorth]

I'm wondering if a large number of those were distributor or FFL inventory which was about to become worthless and written off for disposal.

Thought I remember reading there was a company who sent off a pallet (or 2?) of them to ATF.

eta-60k
Major Bump Stock Seller Surrenders 60,000 Devices to ATF

 

[76Too]

Thought I remember reading there was a company who sent off a pallet (or 2?) of them to ATF.

eta-60k
Major Bump Stock Seller Surrenders 60,000 Devices to ATF

That's a LOT more than 582. Possible not included in the number of surrendered because they were never even sold on the open market.

I bet everyone else just 'disposed' of theirs properly.

 

[one-eyed Jack]

Hahahaha. I would have thought less would have been turned in honestly....

Probably the 582 who turned one in put their other three in the attic. Jack.

 

[07Mustang]

the 582 must have just sold their boats.

 

[June4th]

Can't have that many illegal machine guns in circulation, better hand Beto an AR-15 and have him go on a door-to-door confiscation mission.

 

[drgrant]

I'm wondering if a large number of those were distributor or FFL inventory which was about to become worthless and written off for disposal.

Yeah, I was wondering same thing, if he had written more specific request it may have been a breakdown. Big difference if many of those from distribution etc vs joe smoe turning them in.

-Mike

 

[JRT]

Americans don't obey laws in general and we certainly don't obey fake laws. That said, most people would not turn their bump-stock into he ATF, wouldn't they likely turn them over to the Local PD or troopers? No doubt though, 582 to the ATF seems low.

 

[Uzi2]

Americans don't obey laws in general and we certainly don't obey fake laws. That said, most people would not turn their bump-stock into he ATF, wouldn't they likely turn them over to the Local PD or troopers? No doubt though, 582 to the ATF seems low.

Those were just the overly paranoid retards.........

 

[one-eyed Jack]

If you "turn in" anything firearm related that can't be traced to you, you are part of the problem. Jack.

 

[GM-GUY]

Let’s say the 582 represent 10 percent and something like 5000 others simply destroyed theirs.

So Slidefire was able to have a business selling pieces of plastic and was able to be profitable with less than 6000 sold? Over 10 years with 27 employees?

That math doesn’t work.

 

[not new guy]

I just saw an NPR article that I won’t link to that claimed half a million sold since 2010. So...

 

[drgrant]

Let’s say the 582 represent 10 percent and something like 5000 others simply destroyed theirs.

So Slidefire was able to have a business selling pieces of plastic and was able to be profitable with less than 6000 sold? Over 10 years with 27 employees?

That math doesn’t work.

Yes, even at no cost that's only 1.8 million gross at 300 a pop, without seller cut etc... they probably sold 10x that, although who knows how much of that crap is just rotting in warehouses.

 

[KBCraig]

From The Firearm Blog:

ATF Admits No Legal Authority For Bump Stock Ruling

 

[drgrant]

From The Firearm Blog:

ATF Admits No Legal Authority For Bump Stock Ruling

Of course they would, if not for the great cheetoh, they didn't want to do this, because of lawsuits and control being taken from them....etc.

 

[akma]

Since they had no authority to ban them in the first place will they be returning the 582 to their rightful owners?

 

[MA2NH]

From The Firearm Blog:

ATF Admits No Legal Authority For Bump Stock Ruling

It would be interesting if we could use this as prescient in MA for the AG changing the interpretation of the AWB in 2016.

 

[KBCraig]

Since they had no authority to ban them in the first place will they be returning the 582 to their rightful owners?

How many previous owners will they be reimbursing for devices that were destroyed instead of surrendered?

I mean, surely every device other than those 582 was properly destroyed, right?

 

[namedpipes]

From The Firearm Blog:

ATF Admits No Legal Authority For Bump Stock Ruling

Does this mean I can go back to wearing shoes that have shoelaces without worrying about being charged with constructive possession of a machine gun?

 

[allen-1]

Does this mean I can go back to wearing shoes that have shoelaces without worrying about being charged with constructive possession of a machine gun?

Do you have someone to tie them for you?

 

[SpaceCritter]

I should send them one of these and double their numbers:

 

[Prepper]

Do you have someone to tie them for you?

They have self tying shoe laces now. Those would be fully automatic and should be banned.

 

[exo]

They have self tying shoe laces now. Those would be fully automatic and should be banned.

Thank heavens they’re not full semi-auto.

 

[KBCraig]

AKA Darnell Turner.