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Who cares where the guns are coming from.
Are they going to limit cars to one per household because criminals often use stolen cars to commit crimes?
Are they going to limit credit cards to one per household because criminals use stolen credit cards to buy stuff?
Are they going to ban swimming pools? Kids are 100 times more likely to die in a pool than they are by way of firearm.
Anyone care to guess the number of guns that had a trace originating in MA?
Anyone care to guess the number of guns that had a trace originating in MA?
So, the one-gun-a-month bill will really cut into those guns that were stolen over 3 years ago that are now used in MA crimes.
This info should be e-mailed to the committee evaulating the feel-good H.4102 bill to show them these ATF facts: One gun a month will do nothing to prevent gun violence.
All true, but why confuse them with facts? The other side does not.This info should be e-mailed to the committee evaulating the feel-good H.4102 bill to show them these ATF facts: One gun a month will do nothing to prevent gun violence.
Make that an average of 12.94 yearsSo, the one-gun-a-month bill will really cut into those guns that were stolen over 3 years ago that are now used in MA crimes.
Does this data also reflect when an LEO somehow finds out you have a gun/CCW and runs the serial?
Law enforcement agencies may request traces for any reason, and those reasons are not necessarily reported to the Federal Government. Not all firearms used in crime are traced and not all firearms traced are used in crime are traced
Again, not everything "recovered" is traced. See my prior post or page 2, but yes, this is an issue that needs to be addressed.You have to be kidding me , only 2000 guns in a year . If you listen to the Moonbats you might think that they recovered 100,000 illegal guns coming into our state in convoys of 30 to 40 tractor trailer trucks. Granted 1 illegal gun in the wrong hands can create a lot of damage , but im willing to bet at least 1/4 to 1/2 of the guns listed on the report are taken from the average schmuck who let his FID expire or had a gun sitting around the house or did something stupid and had his guns grabbed by the Gun Nazi's. Yep i can see where one gun a month will really help curb all the guns on the street .
Who cares where the guns are coming from.
Going back to the disclosure page it reads, “Firearms are normally traced to the first retail seller, and sources reported for firearms traced do not necessarily represent the sources or methods by which firearms are acquired for use in crime.” This is a very pertinent piece of information if certain people are pointing to this report as showing where “crime guns” are coming from and the report is actually not reflecting that at all. According to the report a gun they represent coming from New Hampshire could have been legally transferred several times over thirteen years before actually being stolen in Mexico and smuggled back to Massachusetts with a load of illegal drugs.
Again, not everything "recovered" is traced. See my prior post or page 2, but yes, this is an issue that needs to be addressed.
Say it ain't so Joe? I mean, c'mon? If they don't follow the laws then all this legislation is useless?There's also a good amount of guns that are illegally imported into the US from other countries that ATF can't trace. Criminals don't respect laws or national borders.
Instead of worrying where the guns are coming from they should be doing something about where the criminals are coming from.
Some of the reasons reported for being traced don't seem to me to mean that there actually was a crime committed with them.
Does this data also reflect when an LEO somehow finds out you have a gun/CCW and runs the serial?
You have to be kidding me , only 2000 guns in a year . If you listen to the Moonbats you might think that they recovered 100,000 illegal guns coming into our state in convoys of 30 to 40 tractor trailer trucks.
but im willing to bet at least 1/4 to 1/2 of the guns listed on the report are taken from the average schmuck who let his FID expire or had a gun sitting around the house or did something stupid and had his guns grabbed by the Gun Nazi's.
AN argument could be made by the ATF that one could lead to the other.
Guns are inanimate objects. They don't lead to anything. People with criminal intent are the problem not inanimate objects.