As Taliban takes over, some swap iconic AK-47s for made-in-America rifles

[Broc]

They will soon realize they need to be oiled and taken care of or they won't work as intended and will ask for their AK back.

 

[Boris]

… it is a novelty for them. Will wear off and they will be back to their regular (AK) programming… if anybody knows the locals’ weapon maintenance habits he would know that any AR platform is doomed over there.

I am more concerned if the taliban got a hold of any number of shoulder fired guided missiles and they find their way to other parts of the clusterf*** region.

too late, CIA supplied them since 70's and yes some of them turn out in Afrika and yes, there was an American chopper shot down with one.

 

[Broc]

The M4 is more accurate because of the sniper button.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o7S3YV_dFs

Wait ... dialing up the rear sight of an AK to 10 doesn't make it shoot harder?

Do I need an 11?

 

[Boris]

Wait ... dialing up the rear sight of an AK to 10 doesn't make it shoot harder?

Do I need an 11?

According to African superstitions putting some sand into barrel makes "good kill" to prevent your enemy to come back as zombie. TBG did an article on that.

 

[Broc]

According to African superstitions putting some sand into barrel makes "good kill" to prevent your enemy to come back as zombie. TBG did an article on that.

There are also those dudes that wear life jackets thinking it makes them bulletproof

 

[ReluctantDecoy]

Wait ... dialing up the rear sight of an AK to 10 doesn't make it shoot harder?

Do I need an 11?

Just bend that sucker up vertical. I'm sure it's worth like, what....50 or something by that point.

 

[Boris]

There are also those dudes that wear life jackets thinking it makes them bulletproof

embrace and accept diverse kultures! Good juju!

 

[bfm]

This article had to point out US civilians can get 5.56 NATO ammo and russia makes it for US? Strange little addition to the.

Foreign article, in many other countries, if civilians are allowed to have firearms, they cannot have them in military calibers even if the weapon is otherwise identical to military version.

Forgotten Weapons has a video on the French civilian FAMAS in .222 Rem, as opposed to the US export version.

 

[paul73]

There are also those dudes that wear life jackets thinking it makes them bulletproof

they take out foam and fill vests with sand.

 

[Admin]

… it is a novelty for them. Will wear off and they will be back to their regular (AK) programming… if anybody knows the locals’ weapon maintenance habits he would know that any AR platform is doomed over there.

I am more concerned if the taliban got a hold of any number of shoulder fired guided missiles and they find their way to other parts of the clusterf*** region.

Our government literally gave them thousands of stingers in the past.


View: https://twitter.com/cia/status/1379437049728659459?lang=en

 

[Dench]

Our government literally gave them thousands of stingers in the past.


View: https://twitter.com/cia/status/1379437049728659459?lang=en

Weren't you a Stinger gunner at some point?

From the little I know about them, the battery is one of the weak points in the system from the point of view of storing it for a long time without maintaining them. That was one of the reasons I suspect stingers were not an issue against the US in 2001. All the ones given to them that weren't returned had died.

 

[whalerman69]

they take out foam and fill vests with sand.

Hope they remember to put the foam back in when they go boating...

 

[Picton]

I was escorting a Paraguayan colonel out in the field at Ft Bragg once (LONG story) when we came across a Stinger team doing training. He asked them for a demo, and they very politely but professionally told him they couldn't do a full demo because some of the stuff is classified NOFORN. They were very professional; he understood completely.

That's literally the only time I've ever seen a Stinger. But if we couldn't demo them to an allied guest whose guys were training with us, one wonders what we told the mujahideen when we handed them over. Lol.

 

[alx]

Our government literally gave them thousands of stingers in the past.


View: https://twitter.com/cia/status/1379437049728659459?lang=en

I am not concerned for anything earlier than 92 Charlie… (FIM 92C)…. and all CIA- provided ones were earlier versions. A Charlie is much harder to jam, throw off course and has a very high kill probability compared to older versions. In the wrong hands a C version is really bad news….

I hope cool heads managed to pick and choose and destroy in place any Charlies.

… but if the taliban knew the price of ammo they would be setting up online stores with direct shipping to the US instead of reverting back to growing poppy …

 

[Admin]

Weren't you a Stinger gunner at some point?

From the little I know about them, the battery is one of the weak points in the system from the point of view of storing it for a long time without maintaining them. That was one of the reasons I suspect stingers were not an issue against the US in 2001. All the ones given to them that weren't returned had died.

I was a stinger guy for a couple of years. The argon in the battery is pretty sensitive and doesn't store great. It's also terrible for the lungs.

 

[Admin]

I am not concerned for anything earlier than 92 Charlie… (FIM 92C)…. and all CIA- provided ones were earlier versions. A Charlie is much harder to jam, throw off course and has a very high kill probability compared to older versions. In the wrong hands a C version is really bad news….

I hope cool heads managed to pick and choose and destroy in place any Charlies.

… but if the taliban knew the price of ammo they would be setting up online stores with direct shipping to the US instead of reverting back to growing poppy …

Time will tell.

 

[PappyM3]

I saw pictures last night and the Taliban managed to snap up quite an arsenal, a real arsenal, of US military weapons that were apparently abandoned in the retreat. This makes our country look like freaking idiots. The Chinese are laughing their a**es off watching us look like fools.

They weren’t abandoned by the U.S. they were provided to the ANA… who abandoned them.

 

[PappyM3]

That guy seems to love middle eastern gun stuff and often reports from over seas (well, pre covid) where a compass might actually come in handy. Though, good point about why he's still wearing one back in the states. Force of habit?

He should look into one of these:View attachment 513736

I mean, I wear the M9 a lot in the states, not just in the field. But during normal day to day stuff it’s a little odd.

I still prefer a watch and the M9 compared to the one you shared. The M9 shows azimuth when looking at it from the side, allowing you to easily get the azimuth of a terrain feature, tree, or other object. Don’t have to look down and back up.

 

[alx]

Time will tell.

Yes sir…

 

[Hoover]

I am willing to bet they have warehouses with pallets upon pallets of 5.56 there. Probably a lot of 77gr too. Millions of rounds.

I bet 10’s of millions of rounds at a minimum. Plus the Russians will sell them all the ammo they want in the future

the biggest problem is the drones, blackhawks, MRAPs etc they’ll sell to China and Russia who will reverse engineer it to figure out how to defend against it and they’ll steal the technology to make their own. Even the types of armor, China doesn’t have anywhere close to our technology. This will jump their weapons program up decades overnight

 

[Boris]

I bet 10’s of millions of rounds at a minimum. Plus the Russians will sell them all the ammo they want in the future

the biggest problem is the drones, blackhawks, MRAPs etc they’ll sell to China and Russia who will reverse engineer it to figure out how to defend against it and they’ll steal the technology to make their own. Even the types of armor, China doesn’t have anywhere close to our technology. This will jump their weapons program up decades overnight

they already get that shit as SOP from other channels. Turkey have done it many times for Russian equipment.

 

[Dench]

I was a stinger guy for a couple of years. The argon in the battery is pretty sensitive and doesn't store great. It's also terrible for the lungs.

Argons inert... did it have some weird version of it? Its only real danger normally is that it displaces oxygen

 

[Mesatchornug]

That guy seems to love middle eastern gun stuff and often reports from over seas (well, pre covid) where a compass might actually come in handy. Though, good point about why he's still wearing one back in the states. Force of habit?

He should look into one of these:View attachment 513736

I mean, I wear the M9 a lot in the states, not just in the field. But during normal day to day stuff it’s a little odd.

I still prefer a watch and the M9 compared to the one you shared. The M9 shows azimuth when looking at it from the side, allowing you to easily get the azimuth of a terrain feature, tree, or other object. Don’t have to look down and back up.

Operators operating operationally? How will you know he's the real deal if he doesn't wear the cool gear when making videos and swapping stories?

On top of the utility, I'd rather have my compass separate from my watch so if I break either, I only have to replace the one. If I'm going to combine them, it might as well be in an ABC or similar...

 

[weekendracer]

Mikhail would vehemently disagree with that statement^

Russians are like the Chinese, and every other person in the firearms industry. They took what worked from someone else, made it better.

My training wasn't derived in house, we 'borrowed' what worked from everyone in the world and developed the program. Same goes for firearms.

edit: forgot the 'n't', changed the entire meaning of my sentence.

 

[Admin]

Argons inert... did it have some weird version of it? Its only real danger normally is that it displaces oxygen

The rocket breaking out of the tube vacates the oxygen in the immediate AO for the gunner. You're also supposed to move because of the smoke trail that points to your exact location on the ground. They dont want you taking a full breath of argon and running 100 meters to the rear.

 

[Dench]

The rocket breaking out of the tube vacates the oxygen in the immediate AO for the gunner. You're also supposed to move because of the smoke trail that points to your exact location on the ground. They dont want you taking a full breath of argon and running 100 meters to the rear.

Ah that makes a ton of sense.

Is the backblast on those AT4 levels of bad or less?

 

[Rehoboth Dave]

I was a stinger guy for a couple of years. The argon in the battery is pretty sensitive and doesn't store great. It's also terrible for the lungs.

Any battery can be replaced. How easy would it be to hook up an alternate power source?

I wonder, if I join the Taliban will Joe Biden give me a cool M4 with fancy optics too?

 

[Admin]

Ah that makes a ton of sense.

Is the backblast on those AT4 levels of bad or less?

AT4 is worse from what I've seen personally. The stinger has a charge that pops it out of the tube, maybe 10 yards, it starts to drop then the rocket kicks in and it takes off.

 

[Admin]

Any battery can be replaced. How easy would it be to hook up an alternate power source?

I wonder, if I join the Taliban will Joe Biden give me a cool M4 with fancy optics too?

It's not a typical battery for power, the battery when activated cools the heat seeking sensor so you can get heat lock on an aircraft.

 

[Varmint]

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I wonder if Nathan Fillion practiced that in the mirror cause it’s perfect lol.