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if the story is accurate and this was a shootout between two groups of drug dealers, then the CCW's fired upon a target that wasn't engaging them. of course the story could be wildly off. hopefully the CCW folks perceived threat against themselves before engaging. but if it's just to be a good samaritan, sorry I find that straight dumb.
Of course they don't recommend "citizens" do law enforcements job for them, it would be an admission of their jobs not being as important or necessary. In this case, it would almost be an admission the citizens can do it better! Actual shots fired by bad guys and good guys able to intervene without themselves shooting? Considering the ample examples of cops using deadly force in far less dangerous situations, that would be almost unheard of for them. I for one would much rather this be the norm than police intervention.
Are you for real? There's a place like that you know. Mozambique, most of the Middle East nowadays to name two. I don't see many people running that way. Maybe it's just me?
I would only intervene if children's lives were in danger.Having a shootout in a public parking lot is dangerous for more people than just the people involved. You guys seriously think just letting drug dealers shoot it out in public is okay and no intervention should ever be necessary? So when an innocent shopper gets struck and killed, too bad for them? Wowzers.
And to those that have excuses of why they would not intervene is why we have the police today that you hate for doing what they do, even when it is right. So folks you can not have it both ways. The police came about because the citizens stopped being citizens and stopped policing their own communities.
Charged in connection with the incident were:
• Kwiesha “Reggie” McBride of Harlem, New York, charged with reckless conduct with a firearm, Class C, and aggravated trafficking in drugs (heroin), Class B. His bail was set at $50,000.
• Frankie Dejesus of Rochester, New York, charged with reckless conduct with a firearm, Class C, and aggravated assault, Class B. His bail was set at $25,000.
• Diana Davis of Rochester, New York, charged with aggravated assault, Class B. Her bail was set at $5,000.
• Samantha Tupper, of Augusta, charged with probation violation and furnishing drugs (heroin), Class B. She was held without bail.
The affidavit says Tupper had been driving a Ford Taurus to Wal-Mart when she picked up McBride on Mount Vernon Avenue, and that a silver Volkswagen with Dejesus driving and three women passengers approached them there. Two of the women got into Tupper’s vehicle, and both vehicles went to Wal-Mart, parking side by side, and all the people got out.
Wastella said McBride, Tupper, Dejesus and Davis argued, and that some were telling Davis to stop.
McBride said he and Tupper got back into the Taurus when “he observed Dejesus point a handgun out the driver’s side of his vehicle at him. McBride stated in fear of being shot, McBride drew his handgun and began firing at Dejesus,” Wastella wrote. Dejesus told police McBride pulled the gun first and began shooting, so Dejesus fired back.
Wastella said McBride got out of the car once the shooting stopped and began fighting with Dejesus and Davis, with the two beating on McBride. Tupper told police Dejesus hit McBride with the butt of a gun while Davis held him.
Dejesus told police he and Davis fought with McBride in self-defense, Wastella wrote.
Tupper and McBride then drove away, and police later found them at Tupper’s residence on Mayflower Road.
ail for McBride was continued at $50,000 with conditions that prohibit him from possessing weapons and illegal drugs and from contact with co-defendants.
He told the judge he intended to hire an attorney to represent him, but that he had yet to talk to anyone about it since he had just arrived at the jail.Towne, also representing McBride, said McBride requested bail be set at $5,000 cash.
Cavanaugh argued against lowering it, saying authorities have been unable to confirm McBride’s identity, coming up blank when running the address, Social Security number and date of birth that McBride provided.
“As I stand here today, I don’t know that this person is who he says he is,” Cavanaugh said, adding that results from fingerprints taken at the jail have yet to be returned.
Later, Cavanaugh described the heroin police found on McBride as “a block of heroin, not powder.”
Cavanaugh raised similar identity concerns about Dejesus as well in successfully arguing for Mullen to keep bail for Dejesus at $25,000.
All three defendants are scheduled for hearings in October.
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Hard to believe this gal has a heroin problem. She's 24.