AR15 sales in MA

[weekendracer]

maybe certain guns but I dont think less guns , if anything maybe more.

It's like trying to outsmart actual criminals. If most criminals would simply angle their creativity into legitimate commercial practices, they would be very successful businessmen. The 'average' street dealer makes less than minimum wage according to multiple journalists that have been given access to their 'books'.

Look at those 'New York' special AR's that look like Space Force guns.

 

[HorizontalHunter]

Maura claims both, but she is full of shit. If they are selling and I wanted to buy one, I would. Lowers are a no brainer when available, IMO. 22LR have been declared OK even by her. Build as 22LR if you want to comply with the law and FA10 the gun within 7 days. Then, slap whatever you want on it later. It all depends on your risk tolerance.

- if you own guns in MA you are a felon in waiting. You likely break some law or regulation on a regular basis and don't even know it
- if you are risk adverse, don't own guns in MA
- Healey is a politician who likes to get in front of the camera and play to her base. She is NOT a member of the state legislature or the governor so is in no way involved with the making of laws
- Healey can interpret the laws any way she wants. District Attorneys' make decisions about prosecutions, not the AG
- Healey's press conference and subsequent website postings (which have had over 1000 edits in 4 years) are so full of factual errors as to be a joke
- Some dealer's have located their balls and are ignoring Healey and instead following the actual law as written
- An AR lower is a totally unregulated item, like a paperweight per MGL
- Zero people have been prosecuted for Healey violations (who would want to violate her anyway, gross)
- You must still abide by the AWB in terms of the number of features on your AR
- Back to the previous point, if you are risk adverse, don't own guns in MA

Truth....

Oh yea..........can’t forget this.

 

[cathouse01]

I think her main goal was to pull them off the shelves in most gun stores. And she achieved that goal.
But whats up with Sig? How is it that the MCX Virtus is still available? I know it is a piston gun, but what makes it ok and others not? A large campaign contribution perhaps?

Just to be clear, the MCX Virtus is available because it has NO interchangeable parts with an AR, not even the charging handle is interchangeable. The original MCX did take an AR fire control group and, by Healey’s edict, qualifies as a copy. A piston driven AR can still be a “copy” according to her bizarre interpretation of the law as long as it can take an AR fire control group (e.g. my Stag 8T).

 

[Lxpony]

- if you own guns in MA you are a felon in waiting. You likely break some law or regulation on a regular basis and don't even know it
- if you are risk adverse, don't own guns in MA
- Healey is a politician who likes to get in front of the camera and play to her base. She is NOT a member of the state legislature or the governor so is in no way involved with the making of laws
- Healey can interpret the laws any way she wants. District Attorneys' make decisions about prosecutions, not the AG
- Healey's press conference and subsequent website postings (which have had over 1000 edits in 4 years) are so full of factual errors as to be a joke
- Some dealer's have located their balls and are ignoring Healey and instead following the actual law as written
- An AR lower is a totally unregulated item, like a paperweight per MGL
- Zero people have been prosecuted for Healey violations (who would want to violate her anyway, gross)
- You must still abide by the AWB in terms of the number of features on your AR
- Back to the previous point, if you are risk adverse, don't own guns in MA

You seem to know a lot. Care to share with me am ffl who will sell me one???

 

[Lxpony]

FFLs not following the laws are not staying in business long.

Wrong

 

[Glockster30]

You seem to know a lot. Care to share with me am ffl who will sell me one???

CrackPot is an FFL.

 

[In God We Trust]

Maura is too busy being “the first openly gay” AG to care about your gunz. Ze talks a good game on camera but is too busy scissoring other old hags to care

 

[50wt]

You seem to know a lot. Care to share with me am ffl who will sell me one???

Ever try the classifieds ?

 

[citoriguy]

I have been thinking about it myself. At 2k they are really not muck more money than a gas gun these days. But then I ask myself... "How many AR's do you need?"
And good luck finding one in stock around here.
One of my few regrets is selling my Sig 556 patrol rifle. Yeah it was heavy, but it was accurate and drop dead reliable.

N+1. N being the number you currently have. That’s how many you need.

It seems to be the same approach I have with O/Us, but haven’t found my ”Eleanor” yet, so I seem to cycle through them with one exception...

 

[Junior314]

I’ve suddenly developed the need to purchase an MCX Virtus.

 

[Emacs]

The sig MCX is a piston-driven rifle. It differs in that, the bolt is not interchangeable with a gas driven, direct impingement rifle.
The law says, it needs to have at least one other common feature, along with a detachable magazine to be considered a "copy".
The piston system differs sufficiently to not be "a copy" apparently.

The MA AWB gives no criteria for what a "copy" means. It was always interpreted under the fed AWB to mean an exact copy of the Colt AR-15, i.e. a rifle that is identical to that specific model in every way (same caliber, same barrel length, same buttstock, same flash hider, same handguard, etc.) except the rollmark. The 90s Republicans apparently couldn't stop the law, but they made it easy to circumvent. This was never contested up until Maura's disinformation campaign.

 

[mac1911]

Wrong

ok FFLs getting getting caught not following written law do not stay in business long ?

 

[drgrant]

I think her main goal was to pull them off the shelves in most gun stores. And she achieved that goal.
But whats up with Sig? How is it that the MCX Virtus is still available? I know it is a piston gun, but what makes it ok and others not? A large campaign contribution perhaps?

Lol no contribution required this is the dialog:

EOPS/CJIS fgt: "bweah why r u selling sig mcx? Is assault weapon!!!!"
Dealer: "No its not. We have determined it clearly is not an AW per the parameters set forth in the AGs guidance press release. "
EOPS/CJIS fgt: "oh ok."
<click>

There's no gnomish mysticism required just a willingness for dealers to not to be pushed around by state bureaucrats.....

 

[drgrant]

I’ve suddenly developed the need to purchase an MCX Virtus.

Unicorn tear gun right now. A regular AR far easier to come by, even in MA

 

[Junior314]

Unicorn tear gun right now. A regular AR far easier to come by, even in MA

But I have an AR.

I don’t have this particular variant and therefore I NEED it.

 

[Lxpony]

ok FFLs getting getting caught not following written law do not stay in business long ?

Incorrect. Plenty of FFLs in Littleton

 

[cathouse01]

Incorrect. Plenty of FFLs in Littleton

All the FFLs I know in Littleton ALWAYS follow the WRITTEN law!

 

[Lxpony]

All the FFLs I know in Littleton ALWAYS follow the WRITTEN law!

Which is why you can buy stripped lowers there

 

[cathouse01]

But I have an AR.

I don’t have this particular variant and therefore I NEED it.

Even Sig says that the MCX is not an AR variant. They refer to it as “AR-style”.

 

[Da_lucche]

FFLs not following the laws are not staying in business long.
As far as i know is if the guidelines and made up laws from our AG hold any water in the opinion of our courts
What ever manufacture,dealer or buyer will be facing what ever AG/prosecutor/courts throw at them.

Her intent was to scare FFLs off from selling; which has happened with the majority of em. There are some FFLs who still transfer them and are still in business.

 

[OMM 0000]

Even Sig says that the MCX is not an AR variant. They refer to it as “AR-style”.

I see they have an SBR variant too. Wonder if you can pickup an MCX then get the shorter barrel parts once you have your tax stamp?

 

[AJK129]

I see they have an SBR variant too. Wonder if you can pickup an MCX then get the shorter barrel parts once you have your tax stamp?

Thats been my plan. nothing in stock though. Conversion kit is nearly the cost of the gun itself too

 

[Broc]

This thread needs to get locked before someone says something stupid about dealers.

Op, read the f*cking law. Does it say ARs are illegal? - NO? ... then what is your worry?

Either buy one, or don't.

And stop asking stupid f*cking questions online.
Make friends with people and find out.

 

[enbloc]

The future is Lever-actions...

 

[Asaltweapon]

This thread needs to get locked before someone says something stupid about dealers.

Op, read the f*cking law. Does it say ARs are illegal? - NO? ... then what is your worry?

Either buy one, or don't.

And stop asking stupid f*cking questions online.
Make friends with people and find out.

THIS!!!
I hope that’s clear enough.
JFC some people can’t figure this out.
You can play but you’re going to pay.

 

[Chris M.]

The future is Lever-actions...


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Can't wait for the new Ruglins.
Oh, and re the ar. Yes I still want a lower with the 'dog face pony soldier' script.

 

[Asaltweapon]

Can't wait for the new Ruglins.
Oh, and re the ar. Yes I still want a lower with the 'dog face pony soldier' script.

I’m playing with this one part at a time.

 

[SHOCKNAWE]

I was at Sig two days ago and a buddy was asking me to see if they would sell an MCX to a Mass resident and they said “Sorry we can’t sell them to Mass anymore” I didn’t ask why because I don’t give a shit

 

[GM-GUY]

Why would anyone spend the going price for ARs now?

Buy a jig, an 80%, a complete upper and some good optics. AND TELL NO ONE.

I also trust no one is registering anything / have you seen what they are planning? Don’t be silly.

 

[1903Collector]

This thread needs to get locked before someone says something stupid about dealers.

Op, read the f*cking law. Does it say ARs are illegal? - NO? ... then what is your worry?

Either buy one, or don't.

And stop asking stupid f*cking questions online.
Make friends with people and find out.

OP just got a welcome to NES bitch slap....