Apply for an License to Sell Ammunition to avoid Marsha's stings?

[Len-2A Training]

Don't know for sure but, believe you also need a store front in Mass.

That is correct per the 1998 law.

I believe kitchen table ffl can be had, if your business is focussed on internet sales. However, I believe MA dealers license requires commercial space.

Correct.

To sell ammo in Comminchusetts....in short:
1. Get and FFL (see AFT and MA regs for rules).
2. Assuming you completed step 1....apply for MA Gun Dealer/Ammo Sales and Gunsmith License (Local PD where you have established your FFL in).
3. Assuming the state like you.....do the MA training.
4. If you got to step 3 you will get the MA Licenses.
5. See ammo.

Also file for and get a Mass Sales Tax Certificate, collect MA Sales Tax, report and pay same. Report all sales on your business tax return (Schedule C if sole proprietor).

 

[jaypap]

I think Masha is going to start ammo selling stings.
How about applying for a "License to Sell Ammunition"?
If denied, the state is breaking the law against lawful commerce.

Marsha wants people from selling guns without a license, too.

I'll take a firearms dealers license while I'm at it.

She says I need a license, well give me my license or leave alone.

https://www.mass.gov/files/2017-08/Firearms%20Dealer%20License%20to%20Sell%20Ammunition%20or%20Gunsmith%20License%20Application.pdf

Well, isn't that interesting.

Are you saying I can sell my ammo without a FFL or IF I have a FFL - I could liquidate my ammo?

I'm definitely not in the ammo business - I just want to sell some off.

Ammo stings? Just want to sell some off.

I heard she's going after people with Happy Sticks/Marsha Sticks for sale in their sig line on NES.

 

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[mac1911]

Well, isn't that interesting.

Are you saying I can sell my ammo without a FFL or IF I have a FFL - I could liquidate my ammo?

I'm definitely not in the ammo business - I just want to sell some off.

Its not hard to sell ammo , go to local club pop the trunk it will be gone before your get your coffee to your lips.
I unloaded a bunch of 22lr
The only thing i say to do is make sure all involved are licensed

 

[richc]

To be Business or not to Business, that is the question...

A $2K profit you suggest would be chewed up quickly with all the ancillary costs.

 

[Broc]

I think Masha is going to start ammo selling stings.
How about applying for a "License to Sell Ammunition"?
If denied, the state is breaking the law against lawful commerce.

Marsha wants people from selling guns without a license, too.

I'll take a firearms dealers license while I'm at it.

She says I need a license, well give me my license or leave alone.

https://www.mass.gov/files/2017-08/Firearms%20Dealer%20License%20to%20Sell%20Ammunition%20or%20Gunsmith%20License%20Application.pdf

Reptile, sometimes you just look for complicated solutions to non issues.

Now you have to deal with reporting, taxes, who knows what the state asks of the business because "guns", the town maybe not allowing you to have a business in your property...

And all that for what? So you can sell 500 rounds, maybe 2K rounds per year?

Now, if you are planning on using this as a shell to pass other costs, it could work. For example, that new Mac is needed for work, those miles driven to the club are driven for work purposes "on site marketing" and so on and you could probably start reselling other products eventually, such as reloading supplies.

If you do the math, sell enough ammo and don't go full retard and try to pass all your costs as a business expense, it could be worth it. But 99% of the time it isn't worth it due to the amount of extra work, reporting and taxes.

 

[cams]

Why bother going through all that nonsense OP, with the prices marked on your WTS ads already, I don’t think many folks will be jumping in there to buy anything anytime soon.

 

[Broc]

I'm definitely not in the ammo business - I just want to sell some off.

Dude, haven't you been selling ammo all along?

You had threads with ammo at 0.60/round when it was 0.30/round online.

You sounds like you never sold ammo before.

 

[Broc]

Why bother going through all that nonsense OP, with the prices marked on your WTS ads already, I don’t think many folks will jumping in there to buy anything anytime soon.

Could pass those $1500 lowers as a loss, maybe?

 

[42!]

Chris,

I think that the bottom line is that, if you are going to do it, do it ALL the way. Who knows, maybe if you like it you can get an FFL.

I can see it now,

"Reptile Arms".

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That logo is perfect, it even looks like him. @Reptile go for it.

 

[cathouse01]

MA law is actual pretty unequivocal:

Section 122B: Sale of ammunition; license; fees; rules and regulations; refusal, suspension or revocation of license; judicial review; penalties​

Section 122B. No person shall sell ammunition in the commonwealth unless duly licensed.

Now you can question what it means to “sell ammunition in the commonwealth”. TSUSA and other internet businesses say they are selling ammunition TO residents of the commonwealth but they are not doing it IN the commonwealth, therefore they do not need the license. And you might also be able to get away with selling to folks out of state (claiming that if either end of the transaction is not in MA then you are not selling IN the commonwealth). But technically, if you are in MA and selling ammo to another MA resident, you should have a license.

Now is Maura and her minions going to bust you for it? Probably not as long as the volume of business is small, but it’s all dependent on your risk tolerance.

 

[Happy feet]

Set up shop at a NH rest area,

 

[Deleted member 67409]

Set up shop at a NH rest area,

He'd be laughed out of NH... or RI.

 

[TLB]

He'd be laughed out of NH... or RI.

Is cstockwell not C. Stockwell?

 

[Deleted member 67409]

Is cstockwell not C. Stockwell?

There are two cstockwells. I am @C. Stockwell and @cstockwell is my cousin. I live in RI, he's a Mass FFL.

My dad, uncle, aunt, and deceased grandfather are also Stockwells with first initials of "C."

 

[Broc]

There are two cstockwells. I am @C. Stockwell and @cstockwell is my cousin. I live in RI, he's a Mass FFL.

My dad, uncle, aunt, and deceased grandfather are also Stockwells with first initials of "C."

I hope you all have the same first name with a number behind it.

Like, you could be Charles III. If that's the case, I hope you also own a CZ.

 

[AHM]

If zoning is ok the AFT will give its blessing

Speaking of AFT, isn't there a photo somewhere of an AFT agent at Shot Show
with a Molan Labe bumper sticker slapped on the aft side of his suit coat?

 

[Deleted member 67409]

I hope you all have the same first name with a number behind it.

Like, you could be Charles III. If that's the case, I hope you also own a CZ.

Family tradition is to name the first born son after the dad. My great-grandfather was Charles and he had like twelve or so kids. Charles is a common name in the family, but I'm not a Charles.

I don't own any CZs, but I do own a (growing) collection of Zavodi Crvena Zastava guns...

 

[MisterHappy]

I tried to apply, a few years ago.

Local PD told me that I needed a business, any kind would do, to get one issued.

"So, if I had a dry cleaner's shop (I actually used that as an example, for some reason), you could issue it?"

"Yes."

There may be localities that interpret it differently. YMMV

 

[one-eyed Jack]

Details aside, you have to calculate your NOI. (Net operating income). That's what's left after all expenses. Jack.

 

[Reptile]

I’m on the waitlist, hopefully another one soon

I just signed up and emailed Jim...

I'm looking to just watch a recording and not go live in my house.

He said there is no wait list.

It was easy to sign up.

 

[groundscrapers]

I honestly lost brain cells reading this.

 

[AHM]

I honestly lost brain cells reading this.

 

[cstockwell]

Family tradition is to name the first born son after the dad. My great-grandfather was Charles and he had like twelve or so kids. Charles is a common name in the family, but I'm not a Charles.

I don't own any CZs, but I do own a (growing) collection of Zavodi Crvena Zastava guns...

That Charles who is your great grandfather is my grandfather. And I am named Charles. I was thrown off the first time I saw you post on here actually

 

[richc]

 

[Synyster]

This is why you sell to only green members with positive feedback.

 

[groundscrapers]

I don't think at a buck around for Winchester white box 9mm you are gonna have to worry about much business selling your ammo lmao. Not to mention if I am an ffl and someone walks in the door with a bunch of ammo to have me conduct a transfer of something I don't lawfully have any care to get involved with i'm gonna tell you to take your gouging ammo and pound sand.

 

[drgrant]

I think Masha is going to start ammo selling stings.
How about applying for a "License to Sell Ammunition"?
If denied, the state is breaking the law against lawful commerce.

Marsha wants people from selling guns without a license, too.

I'll take a firearms dealers license while I'm at it.

She says I need a license, well give me my license or leave alone.

https://www.mass.gov/files/2017-08/Firearms%20Dealer%20License%20to%20Sell%20Ammunition%20or%20Gunsmith%20License%20Application.pdf

If you're this afraid of the AG you're not cut out for this business.

 

[FalArAk]

This is why you sell to only green members with positive feedback.

So don't sell to any Green members with negative feedback ?

 

[groundscrapers]

If you're this afraid of the AG you're not cut out for this business.

right! Imagine be this wigged out and then getting a ffl and granting atf access to your house for audits or traces lol