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I've been fasting (one meal a day) for years...before it became a fad. Funny...since being home for a few weeks with the wife and kids it's been pissing me off (I know this sounds bad) watching them eat all day. All day. At any given moment someone is eating. I never preach my lifestyle (I hate people who do that) but just being stuck here watching everyone just (1) do nothing all day and (2) somehow need to eat so much is driving me nuts. I need to get out ha.
 

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I've been fasting (one meal a day) for years...before it became a fad. Funny...since being home for a few weeks with the wife and kids it's been pissing me off (I know this sounds bad) watching them eat all day. All day. At any given moment someone is eating. I never preach my lifestyle (I hate people who do that) but just being stuck here watching everyone just (1) do nothing all day and (2) somehow need to eat so much is driving me nuts. I need to get out ha.
Hi hear you

My IM fasting/Paleo eating has been rough these past few weeks trying to manage meals now that the whole family is home with trying to support a Vegetarian, a Bread lover, etc.
 
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I've fasted every day of my life. It's called sleeping. When I wake up, I'm hungry. Starving myself when I have to get working makes no sense to me.

Want to know the fastest, most efficient way to lose fat? Stop drinking alcohol. When I cut it out, I lost 20# over 6 months without any other changes.
 

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Hi hear you

My IM fasting/Paleo eating has been rough these past few weeks trying to manage meals now that the whole family is home with trying to support a Vegetarian, a Bread lover, etc.
HA yeah, Like I said, how I eat is my choice and I would never expect them to do what I do...it's literally because there is no escaping it now ha.
 

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I've been fasting (one meal a day) for years...before it became a fad. Funny...since being home for a few weeks with the wife and kids it's been pissing me off (I know this sounds bad) watching them eat all day. All day. At any given moment someone is eating. I never preach my lifestyle (I hate people who do that) but just being stuck here watching everyone just (1) do nothing all day and (2) somehow need to eat so much is driving me nuts. I need to get out ha.

About a decade ago, I started fasting for my church. Wednesday's. I found out that I didn't NEED to eat.

After some dietal adjusting a year or so later, I realized I didn't need breakfast. So I stopped eating breakfast on weekdays and usually lunch on weekends. (Because I'd have a big-ass breakfast instead.)


What I did read recently is that extended fasting - especially in the AM - causes you to burn muscle instead of fat. (It was relating the question of "should you eat before exercise in the AM."). It was a passing blurb so I didn't really check it out. But what I've been doing anyhow for the last month or so is having a 110cal protein shake in the AM.

But extended fasting - like day(s) - those times are over for me.
 

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Not 100% fasting, but I did black coffee and tomatoes for close to two weeks many years ago. Forget where I read about it (Mayo Clinic diet?). I lost the 30 lbs I wanted to lose. Needless to say I like tomatoes and that diet allowed you to eat as many as you wanted. Not sure I could do that today. The acidity in that diet would probably kill me now.
 

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I've fasted every day of my life. It's called sleeping. When I wake up, I'm hungry. Starving myself when I have to get working makes no sense to me.

Want to know the fastest, most efficient way to lose fat? Stop drinking alcohol. When I cut it out, I lost 20# over 6 months without any other changes.
No particular way of eating works for everyone. I've found, like many others, that fasting through lunch from the previous dinner results in not only a loss of fat but more energy, mental clarity and overall better health. Not a fad nor a joke, but backed up by many published medical studies. I'm 14 months into a conservative fasting diet and can honestly this is how i will eat until i stop eating...Socialism aside lol
 
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My Dad fasts by skipping breakfast and waiting to eat until after 1 PM. Then after 7 PM he doesn’t eat anything (ideally). This is a “new” fasting technique/diet that after 4-6 months will allegedly burn fat and switch your metabolism around.
 

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My Dad fasts by skipping breakfast and waiting to eat until after 1 PM. Then after 7 PM he doesn’t eat anything (ideally). This is a “new” fasting technique/diet that after 4-6 months will allegedly burn fat and switch your metabolism around.
this is neither new nor does anything happen after 4-6 months. if you stop eating this way you go back to feeling the way you felt. you will feel the benefits in days and weeks. there is a ton of good info out there, just stay clear of anyone selling anything.
 

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Just got thru the first 16/8 cycle wasn't too bad, just gotta keep busy. Sucks though when your lying in bed and hungry. Also some times I have serious Jekyll and Hyde moments if I go to long without eating, are little snacks ok if needed?

Bread is a tough one too, I married into a Portuguese family...
bread is like a religion to these people!
 
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Just got thru the first 16/8 cycle wasn't too bad, just gotta keep busy. Sucks though when your lying in bed and hungry. Also some times I have serious Jekyll and Hyde moments if I go to long without eating, are little snacks ok if needed?
no, little snacks are not ok lol do some research, there are many helpful hints on not feeling hungry
 

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My Dad fasts by skipping breakfast and waiting to eat until after 1 PM. Then after 7 PM he doesn’t eat anything (ideally). This is a “new” fasting technique/diet that after 4-6 months will allegedly burn fat and switch your metabolism around.
Probably the most popular way of fasting referred to IF (intermittent fasting) or eating on a 16/8 cycle and has been around for a long time
Does wondering for body composition, but research also shows improvements like increased autophagy, fighting colds better, etc.
 

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So just get dizzy and pass out? that's how I get sometimes
It can take time to get fully into the 16/8 cycle - insulin levels that you are used to will make you hungry during your fasting window when you first start
If you are fasting in the morning, go as long as you can with the hunger, then eat something.
Over time you can move that back until you hit noon or whatever timeframe you want to start eating at for the full 16hr fast.

I have also used Broth with collagen mixed into it during the fasting period to help with hunger, but if you are feeling dizzy, that is probably your body trying to deal with insulin levels you currently have; over time IF will drop insulin resistance/response and you will feel better.
 

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Intermittent fasting is quite a good method for healthy eating and if you cut down the garbage carbs and sugar it is even better. Basically eating only during an 8 hour period each day and no snacking. Especially true when you start out. Very good for insulin levels and other issues as well. We werent really evolved to eat so much and so many times a day.
 

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Just got thru the first 16/8 cycle wasn't too bad, just gotta keep busy. Sucks though when your lying in bed and hungry. Also some times I have serious Jekyll and Hyde moments if I go to long without eating, are little snacks ok if needed?

Bread is a tough one too, I married into a Portuguese family...
bread is like a religion to these people!
If it is a struggle to skip a meal, then something still isn't being done quite right. Done right, let's say you're skipping breakfast, you wake up and realize if you wanted to, you could eat. But, you stop and ponder it for a moment and realize your stomach is not actually growing with hunger. And, you are alert and can function normally. So... you're like wow, I'm actually still fine... lemme just not eat yet and hold out to lunch. And, at noon you decide to eat lunch but you're still fine.

You mention bread, so you're probably still eating a lot of carbs. For it to work without lots of suffering and use of will power, your carbs will have to be very low, like 20 to 50 grams a day at most. If you are eating anything other than meat and vegetables (potato is bad that doesn't count), odds are your daily carbs are still too high. Even things like nuts (which are otherwise paleo) can provide a sizable carb dose. Anyway, what I did was first get used to the low carbs. Once that is all set, next skip any snacks, so still 3 meals a day. Get used to that, then drop breakfast.

My wife and I both did this and it worked out great. She's still doing it, but I am temporarily pausing the IF and will get back to it later... I did too many changes at once and my BP and pulse started going way up, like 150/110 just laying in bed, and pulse 105 doing absolutely nothing. I think it is what I was eating though, I was trying to eat large amounts of veggies and things like kale smoothies. My body's like WTF is this shit and it just freaked out. So, I stopped all that and just do meat and lesser amounts of veggies, and no IF for now, and it's back down to normal... reasonable BP and pulse like around 75. After things adjust, I'll try adding back the IF without all the veggies crap.
 

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I don't eat a lot of bread but it's always around the kitchen and a temptation, I'm trying being more carb aware but the little f***ers are everywhere! I chew gum a lot, well I did, 2g of carbs in one stick x 8-10 pieces a day adds up.

I have literally had episodes where If I go too long without eating I start shaking and sweating and become a real a**h***, been over it with my primary, he said that's your body telling you to eat man!
 

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I don't eat a lot of bread but it's always around the kitchen and a temptation, I'm trying being more carb aware but the little f***ers are everywhere! I chew gum a lot, well I did, 2g of carbs in one stick x 8-10 pieces a day adds up.

I have literally had episodes where If I go too long without eating I start shaking and sweating and become a real a**h***, been over it with my primary, he said that's your body telling you to eat man!
When you are eating too many carbs, and you suddenly try to cut back or skip a meal, that's exactly the symptoms you will get. Your doctor doesn't know what he is talking about and doesn't understand low carbs. Don't feel bad though... my doctor doesn't have a clue either.

Oh, another tip is, on purposely eat fat, more if you are not getting enough. That should help you skip a meal. The fat can be from fatty meat, or from an avocado (they're awesome), real butter, eggs, or even cheese. If I don't think I've had enough fat in what I just ate, I just eat some slices of cheese with almond butter (but not too much) on them. It has to be real cheese though. Those individually wrapped slices are an abomination known as "processed cheese food" and they are like 20g of carbs per slice. Things like cheddar and swiss cheese are examples of real cheese that have less than 1g (or even 0g) of carbs, but lots of fat and protein. Just look at the label for near zero carbs and that's what you want. I like to buy the package of pre-sliced cheese, the kind you would set out at a party for people to snack on. It is real cheese still, but without the effort of all that slicing (I'm lazy).

But, don't eat more fat AND carbs at same time. That's bad, and you'll get fat.
 

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I don't eat a lot of bread but it's always around the kitchen and a temptation, I'm trying being more carb aware but the little f***ers are everywhere! I chew gum a lot, well I did, 2g of carbs in one stick x 8-10 pieces a day adds up.

I have literally had episodes where If I go too long without eating I start shaking and sweating and become a real a**h***, been over it with my primary, he said that's your body telling you to eat man!
If you stick to protein (Meat, Eggs, Nuts) and have minimal carbs you don't really get hungry much. Carbs make me even more hungry. I have peanuts available during the 8 hours and snack on those when I want something. No mood swings at all once you get off the carbs.
 

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To be honest, the only thing fasting has done for me, overall, is to cut back on my overall calories. I have a WICKED time eating at night. That isn't good or bad. Not a lot of science showing anything on that.

BUT. . . . .when it's the extra 10-20% of calories - regardless of what kind of calories they are - you're going to have a harder time maintaining a lower body fat %. Especially as you get older. (Over 50. Muscle loss, increased difficult-to-remove body fat, etc.,)

As I mentioned above, I'm doing a protein shake in the AM. Still losing weight. Eating at night has decreased the last week or two, but that comes and goes. I can go a month where I eat 1/2 a meal equivalent at 9pm. Just STARVING. The best I can do is maintain during that time.

But I've never found benefits or detriments to JUST fasting. It really just changed how I look at food.
 

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About a decade ago, I started fasting for my church. Wednesday's. I found out that I didn't NEED to eat.

After some dietal adjusting a year or so later, I realized I didn't need breakfast. So I stopped eating breakfast on weekdays and usually lunch on weekends. (Because I'd have a big-ass breakfast instead.)


What I did read recently is that extended fasting - especially in the AM - causes you to burn muscle instead of fat. (It was relating the question of "should you eat before exercise in the AM."). It was a passing blurb so I didn't really check it out. But what I've been doing anyhow for the last month or so is having a 110cal protein shake in the AM.

But extended fasting - like day(s) - those times are over for me.
This is BAD INFO. Your body prioritizes where it gets energy from. First place is sugar in the blood stream and then stored in the liver. After you deplete these 2 locations, your body taps fat stores. You would have to be done with your fat stores for your body to break down muscle for energy. In other words, you would be starving to death. That doesn't happen when you skip a meal or 3 and then exercise. It takes weeks for most people to get to the point where your body will actually start eating your muscle tissue. And yes, I was a personal trainer over 20 years.
 

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In our house we compare "carbs" to heroin. (Yes, we eat plenty of veg, so let's exclude veg from the comparison)
How much heroin/carbs would you give a junkie? None right? So none of this "just one slice of bread" or "just one piece of cake" etc. If you have a little bit, you will likely crave it more.

If you really want to understand fasting I suggest you read The Complete Book of Fasting by Dr Jason Fung. He also has a bunch of youtube videos but they tend to be very long and not as well "spelled out" as the book is for beginners.

If you like youtube I really like Dr Berg.

If you want to really get an idea about whether or not your body "needs" those carbs or "just a little snack" you should get a glucose tester. I use a cheap one from Walmart. It's their brand called ReliOn. No prescription necessary and fairly inexpensive. So when you feel "light headed" or "hungry" test your glucose first. Like others said you are likely in need of water and/or salt when you first start fasting. Also, are you actually hungry or are you bored/tired/etc? Does your stomach actually feel empty and are you actually receiving "REAL hunger signals?" My guess is that 98% of the time people in this country are eating for some reason other than actual "hunger."
Growing up I knew what real hunger pains were. Haven't really had that since becoming an adult and supporting myself.
 
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