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anyone kicked out of family over guns and trump

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by nordic alien, Jul 2, 2019.

  1. Dadstoys

    Dadstoys NES Member

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    I weeded moonbats out of my life both family and friends long ago and never looked back.
    It's not just politics with them it's a lifestyle.
    What's mine is mine and what's yours in mine too.
    Me Me Me Mine Mine Mine.
    The first to look for help and the last to give it.
    It's amazing how much your quality of life goes up not having to deal that crap.
     
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    Not me, I have minimal involvement with people and am not on social media (other than gun related forums). My wife was outed by her side when she showed support for Trump a few years ago. They were down right nasty to her. I don't get it, but she still sends them birthday cards, etc. Wait until they find out that I recently got her into shooting. I've been trying to get her to post some of her targets on Fakebook or as I like to call it FLMSbook (effing, Liberal, Moonbat, Snowflake book), but she won't. Her side of the family would go ballistic!
     
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    Agree with professional social worker. At this point in life, I am done with drama.
     
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    MsHappy plays Bridge.

    After the election she knew of one partnership, that was over a decade old, that was abruptly ended. By the Dem, of course.

    I'm guessing that if the votes had gone the other way, they'd still be playing together.

    In case you don't know, Bridge at that level is a blood sport.....
     
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  5. GoodWillHunting

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    I some how ended up with an extreme lefty for a brother. I know better than to bring up anything vaguely political with him because I find being yelled/lectured at tiresome and uninteresting.
    The last time guns came up it was a spectacular shit show. We were out having drinks with a common friend and we had basically just finished talking about how my great-grandfathers entire family was lost to the Armenian Genocide and then talking about how my mother's aunt would basically "service" soldiers in post-war German refuge camps so that they would leave the other young women alone. Some how the conversation shifted to 2A and the right to self-defense and he started raving about how no one needs guns (weapons of war) and they are irrelevant in our modern society. I started with giving him stats on the fallacies of gun violence but then he started calling me a gun-nut and comparing me to Tom Cruise defending Scientology. -Mind you he is almost yelling now, in a bar. -
    I then pointed back to our conversation of just 5 minutes before about how the world was turned upside down for our family (one generation separated) and asked him if he thinks that the world and human nature has changed SO much within 60 years? He kept ranting and I got up, left the table and went home. He called me a couple days later to apologize and suggested that alcohol and politics were a bad combo.
     
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  6. TomMontana

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    It doesn't matter who brings it up. He participated. It's like road rage. Usually requires two willing idiots to take it to the next level. So don't participate when politics are brought up.
     
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    instead of spewing facts and figures tell him they're fun. have the bro wrap his head around that. [laugh]
     
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    Yep’m - lost friends from four decades over Trump. Only as I would not immediately denounce and repudiate any and all actions since he was elected.

    F’em...
     
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  9. Junior314

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    Delete Facebook. This will eliminate 75% of these problems.

    Has worked wonders for me.
     
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    I dont talk politics with people period. Saves a lot.of BS.

    Threatened to kick my wife and step daughter off the boat the other night when they started in on it.
     
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    Sorry, but no. It does not take two. It simply takes one person that is utterly incapable of rational thought. I'm sure you're well intentioned and your view might work in "normal" conflicts but when you introduce insanity it simply doesn't apply.
     
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    My Mothers side is all pro-gun (not sure about pro trump), my Fathers side is exact opposite. We all get along just fine, we just know what areas of conversation to avoid. I love family gatherings, they don't have to be a fight, we have much more in common than we think
     
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    To the OP, I'm sorry that your family can't set aside differences to be a family.

    I have a sister who was vocally pro GW Bush when she lived in MA, but is now super left after moving to GA and getting married. I'm not sure when the switch happened.

    We stay in contact so that she is involved in my kids' lives, but we mostly steer clear of anything close to religion or politics. Over the last few years, she has said some very hurtful things to me and our mom (for example: called Mom a "victim-blamer" and unfriended her because Mom suggested that it might be prudent to wait for all the info to come out before condemning Justice Kavanaugh). I have considered cutting off the relationship, but our family is/has always been very close knit. The MA to GA distance helps reduce conflict.

    The last time I saw her, I encouraged her to read news from both perspectives to avoid the echo chamber we are all prone to entering. My BIL protectively reminded her that it was late and we all needed to get to bed.
     
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    I guess I got lucky. My family is pro-gun, pro-any politician that is for the people, and libertarian leaning.
    My Wife's family is Pro-Trump, republicans and scared of guns but not against them in the right hands. They actually love that I would defend their daughters life (and she could also defend her own) with my own and some firepower. They just are typical city folk and think guns are dangerous, but not bad.
    My sister in law is left leaning (teacher) but her husband, who I am buds with is HARD right/ libertarian leaning. It makes for interesting conversations.
     
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    I guess I am fortunate that everyone that I'm aware of in my immediate and extended family is conservative, pro-2A and pro-Trump like moi. Closest we have to lefty moonbats is the wife's (liberal, anti-2A) best friend and my elderly mother's (anti-anyone not a flaming leftist CNN/MSNBC-loving Dim) neighbor. We do our very best to avoid talking politics with either. [laugh]
     
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  16. nordic alien

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    wow don't feel so alone on this issue many are going through the same thing ; has turned into my own mega thread
     
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    That is sad. One of my theories is it should be normal for the sibling who takes care of an elderly parent to be well paid for doing so. Paid from the parent's funds of course, not any other way. That should be a conversation that should not be considered distasteful. Fewer elderly people would end their lives in care if this were so, I believe.

    Be very, very careful who you select as your health care proxy. Make sure they do not have conflicting incentives. There is a massive sh!t storm on my wife's side of the family right now due to my wife's stepfather choosing the wrong person as his sole health care proxy resulting in his abuse, neglect and accelerated death.
     
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    Thanks, we had a few tough days but we got her back home this afternoon and she is doing well.

    I really don’t care to discuss my views of Trump here as that will turn this thread into a dumpster fire.
     
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    No but I ignore a lot of family for not tolerating my points of view. I don’t have to put up with crap I don’t like or hear their bs either. Winning sounds different to different people
     
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    My brother has banned me from his Facebook. I guess he did not like anyone who does not agree. I wonder what he'll think when he comes here and has to click on "TRUMPISMYPRESIDENT" to get wi-fi access this Saturday for my daughter's birthday.

    Maybe we should have another post, where we put all our crazy family's facebook accounts, and we can see who is the most out there.

    [​IMG]
     
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    That's good news about your Mom.

    As far as discussing Trump and it turning into a dumpster fire, I guess what you are saying is that the NES family is just as dysfunctional as all the other families in this thread. [laugh]
     
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    Trump is an entirely different category than R, D, conservative, or liberal.

    I've never been a fan, but I also don't let Washington divisiveness intrude on local matters ("Screw DC, save New Hampshire!" is my unofficial motto.)

    My own lovely bride fully supports me, but hates that I carry the same party label as Orange Man. For her, it's all about the sex things, and she has good reason to despise people who brag about such things.

    She doesn't unfriend family, but she will unfollow them. She comes from a huge family and is proud that all of her blood, half, and step siblings are connected on FB after tumultuous childhoods. She doesn't want to talk politics with any of them, and will hide political posts, especially from Trump fans.

    I've never hard-blocked anyone, and it takes a really special case for me to unfriend someone over disagreements. ("Who the heck is this person?" is sufficient for unfriending, though.)

    I represent everyone in my district, even when we don't agree. I do my best to avoid antagonizing anyone, but I will always be honest about my positions.
     
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    I am in that position now. Since I moved back to Hanover against my sisters advice, I have not had any contact with her. Both her and her wife are on the left, but not extremely so. As the last member of my immediate family. I miss her. But I do not miss all the anti Trump stuff I had to deal with every time I was with her and my sister in law.
     
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    For at least a while now, my sister and the rest of them (brother in law, plus niece and nephew) who are firmly in the 'libtard' camp haven't spewed anything political when I'm there visiting. Good thing because it was getting pretty bad. She, and the BIL, both went to BU so you can guess where they picked up that tilt. Nephew went to northeastern and was pushed even deeper into the libtard camp as a result. Pretty sad, since I did take him shooting a couple of times. BIL wanted to go with my nephew with me (mentioned it a while back) but I told them that they can't until they can purchase ammo in their home state (PRM). They haven't mentioned it since. [rofl2]

    I've already determined that the next time I'm at their place having a family dinner, and they start spewing the libtard/dumbocrat propaganda, I'll either go up to the other part of the house (it's a two family, with my mother living in the other part) or just pack up and leave. F them if they think I'll sit there and listen to that hate speech.
     
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    I’ll take “Missed Opportunities” for $200 Alex...
     
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    I'll take "reducing my stress level" for $10,000 Alex...

    For clarification, these are the same people that see nothing wrong with the restrictions in place for MA gun owners and also have no issue with imposing MORE restrictions on ALL gun owners.
     
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    living in an echo chamber doesn't make life easier.
     
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    Most people / family in Mass are liberals who cannot deal with Trump. I have a good deal of Trump stuff in my house on display. If they don't want to see it they don't have to visit my house. They can go shit in their hats. I'm sure they mutter behind my back but i don't give a shit. We manage to coexist by not discussing politics. LOL
     
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    My tolerant leftist sister unfriended me on FB.
     
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    True, but there's also no reason to entertain retards that goad people into political bullshit when it's not welcome.

    -Mike
     

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