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Anual NES Bullet Casting Seminar Feeler Thread

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by Michael J. Spangler, Jul 9, 2019.

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  1. mac1911

    mac1911 NES Member

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  2. pastera

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    Interested
     
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    dates on the poll aren't correct if you're trying to do it on a Sunday, Michael...those dates are Saturdays.
     
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  4. Michael J. Spangler

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    Thanks for the heads up. I’ll have to figure out how to change that.
     
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    Keeping an eye on the date but this time I'm not committing until I KNOW I can make it.
     
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    Going to try to do a mold modification demo at the seminar with a 7x lathe and a new Lee 2 cavity mold.

    Did a test run on a Lee 356-120TC - This mold dropped small (.3556-.356)

    Opened it up to drop .3585-.359 and removed the lube groove. I didn't bother polishing it because the bullets fall out of the mold easily.

    For those with a keen eye - yes the micrometer reads ~.3595 but the bullet was hot and was held very loosely. And yes, I did touch the cone on one of the cavities... it was a test run...

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  7. Michael J. Spangler

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    Love it!!!
    That’s an awesome mod.
    Do you think you could center the cavity and drill it out for a standard hollow point pin?

    Have you check out hollowpointmold.com?
    That’s guy makes serious $$$ drilling some holes in molds!
     
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    Once the cavity is lined up for boring out the lube groove, drilling a hole and reaming is relatively easy.
    Haven't given much thought to converting a mold though and there isn't much meat on the Lee mold I'm using but might be something to try this winter

    If there is a drill press available (or I could bring my micro-mill) - We could fix Lee 2 cavity molds where the pins holding the handles on are falling out (drill out with a #29, tap 8-32 and install a set screw)
     
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    Nice! That’s a failing point in the less Moulds that come with the price point but it’s nice to know how to fix it.
     
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    Do you think you could pull of something like this?
    I think off all the round ball Moulds I’ve passed on over the years and how this was an ingenious way to make a cool ball-et
    I have loaded this one in 45/70 but it drops a little on the small size. I’m going to load it in 45 Colt now.

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    Are you looking to just remove the lube groove? Or open it up (wouldn't end up tangent to the drive band but the difference would be small)
    mold.jpeg
     
  12. Michael J. Spangler

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    So
    Sorry I should have explained.
    This was a round ball mould that some clever dude turned into a collar button bullet with a line groove.

    Could you pull that off from a simple round ball mould?
     
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    Dropped some cut lines on the picture - getting behind the lube groove to cut a drive band would be a pain. Just boring it with straight sides for Hi-Tek or powder coat would be relatively simple.
     

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    Hmm. Wondering if you could not make a front driving band and just have the base band.
    Then the line groove would be between the major diameter of the ball and the base band.
    Not sure how well that would work but even a Hi-Tek smooth sided version would work well.
    I see round ball Moulds on the cheap all the time.

    It could make for a lightweight plinker in a centerfire cartridge.
     
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    4.3 grains Bulls eye. This bullet and gun dont like BE much? A406B7C7-AE8D-4657-AF17-0CA2D04D3307.jpeg D64262BA-975E-4717-8648-9B4FCE1AE4F8.jpeg 3.5 grains Clays 1.125” COL fed fine and shot well. That high flyer was all my bad booger hook control. image.jpg
    Vintage Lyman 452488/431 small body single cavity mold 185 grain SWC
    Goimg to make up some good old fashion Lubed smokey powder hole punchers. Drop a target at 25 yards and see what I can do old school service pistol style with the 1911style

    oh just a side note LEE 6 cavity mold handles fit almost all molds or are easy converted to fit vs buying expensive handles or hunting down the "small" body mold handles for some of these older molds.
     
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    Sorry I haven't been on for a while. We picked a vacation place in Northern New Hampshire late last Oct. and I have been out straight working on it. I remodeled the inside and that is now done. So I am up for a little relaxing at the seminar. I have a couple of mold mallets left to throw in the pot. I will see if I can come up with some lead and maybe some pewter.
     
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    I can help a bit on that, also if there are any attendees in the local area of Hanover Ma I can give you some lead to
     
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    For those attending if you do not have any lead I will karma those going a batch of lead
    9 lb wheel weight ignot and 1lb 50/50 solder .
    You can learn what to do with it at the seminar
     
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    Alright it looks like the 13th right now.
    Sorry for the dates being off but this is set for a sunday not a saturday.
    If you're still in please let me know
    The other option would be to go for Sunday November 10th if it's open.
     
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    Ok looks like it needs to be November 3rd. Who’s still in?
     
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    I should be able to swing it - I'm normally busy the first and fourth Sundays but can reschedule.
     
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    Interested. Me and possibly my dad. We've got alot of lead. Would like to make good use of it.
     
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    Awesome

    So who has questions? anyone on the fence? Anyone thing that casting and cast lead sucks and need to be proven otherwise?
     
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    @Richardgc @northny @daggrant99 @BarnBuilder @yanquidog @Artie @BFDX7 @snax

    @pastera @BillNed @1919FAN @The Goose

    Alright so we're on for the 3rd then? is everyone in?
    Details to follow this week as far as location and cost. As stated earlier I'm going to keep the cost down this time and keep away from the long boring smelting. This week drop down the amount of lead everyone takes home to the bullets you can cast while you're there. I'll show a quick demo on smelting (adding some WW to an already molten batch and quick fluxing) and leave way more time for the hands on casting/coating/lubing/loading tips and tricks.

    I'll start a sign up thread too.
     
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    image.jpg Anyone have Idea of what this is and possible alloy?
    Aprox 12” across 4” thick
     
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    No clue but if you have local scrap yard they could zap it with the XRF gun.
     
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    They charge you to zap it unless tour cashing in 2000lbs. If the yard even admits to having one. Most places just say XR....what?
     
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    Really? I’ve had my local yard zap some Lino/mono/foundry to see what was what when I bought like $20 worth. They were more than happy to help
     
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    2 yards here charge $50 to scan IF your not cashing in by the ton. Think they just cant be bothered.
     
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