When will people come to their senses with allowing women in these police officer positions? I'm afraid never;
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Another woman cop pulls gun instead of tazer
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WTF?
Maybe they need to make the tasers look evern MORE outlandishly NOT like a gun. i.e. no trigger, maybe to buttons you have to push with both hands, no pistol grip....kind of more like a star trek phasor.
I personally can not see how anyone could be so stupid to not notice it is a gun and not a yellow taser...but i have never been in a situation with someone shooting at me, maybe the adrenaline makes you not notice things like color and weight?
Maybe they need to make the tasers look evern MORE outlandishly NOT like a gun. i.e. no trigger, maybe to buttons you have to push with both hands, no pistol grip....kind of more like a star trek phasor.
I personally can not see how anyone could be so stupid to not notice it is a gun and not a yellow taser...but i have never been in a situation with someone shooting at me, maybe the adrenaline makes you not notice things like color and weight?
I'm not sure it's a case of confusing a gun for a Taser - I think it's actually a ND on the part of the female cop. I'm not even sure if she had a Taser? I think she was yelling taser for the other officer - he had out and used his Taser, simultaneously with her firing one shot. It would be normal for one to be prepared with lethal and one with non-lethal. She had her finger on the trigger and pulled it when she started yelling.
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Virginia cop shot dead on first day on the job
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This is taught in every EMS class. After you accidentally shoot a person you immediately cuff them while acting confused.
The idea is if the person dies from the bleeding they can't testify against you in court. This is why the very last step is start to control bleeding. You will start to control bleeding only after you have the person in a body bag.
I hope it's a ND. Taser guy did it right, applied force and ended the situation quickly. Didn't allow a foot chase across a street to take place.
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SKumar
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Wow. Female cops ain't looking good lately. "OMG! Did I shoot him?" (AS SHES REHOLSTERING HER FIREARM)
"Quota hires" are incredibly undertrained. It's not good to wreak havoc on the public then have depts and DAs cover up the damage.
"Quota hires" are incredibly undertrained. It's not good to wreak havoc on the public then have depts and DAs cover up the damage.
CRSIII
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It’s a training and experience issue, same as it’s always been. Some people (cops) have never been in really stressful situations and their brain just shuts down due to overload. Others on scene that are in control of their own faculties can’t also monitor who else is showing up and how they’re handling the stress while still trying to contain the situation and bring it to a peaceful or at least successful end while trying to not get killed from your own people’s stupidity and the bad guy all at once.
I had a guy at gun point one time who had just tried to cut my throat with razor blades chicken wired to his hand. He missed by inches, I drew on him and began issuing verbal orders for him to get on the ground and drop his weapon (I only saw the flash of blade as he swung at my throat and the sunlight reflecting off of it and thought it was a knife in his hand).
The stress of seeing all this happen up close and fast caused one of the two female officers with me to begin yelling into the radio that “he has a gun!” instead of just breathing and letting me maintain control of what I had. So responding officers start driving like crazy thinking bad guy has a gun and officers are in trouble when he didn’t and we weren’t. The only pistol out was mine.
But instead of processing information and acting accordingly the panic set in and she did the only thing she knew to do, call dispatch for help. Well Dispatch can’t help us right now so stfu and stay off the radio.
The second female officer on scene then proceeded to walk directly in front of my muzzle, which was pointed at bad guys chest, who was still only about 6’ feet away. She completely blocked my view for a split second before I put my hand on her shoulder and physically shoved her the f*** out of the way. I was left having to control both female officers on scene as well as a still unsecured, mentally unstable and armed suspect. He then proceeded to cut his own throat and collapse against a tree.
I don’t know what makes people’s brains turn to mush like that and what doesn’t. They had both been cops for a couple of years, tho still rookies, they should’ve learned by then to control their adrenaline and fall back on training. They didn’t.
We learned who was who on the job, and would have to get on the radio and call off certain responding units if they said they were going to your location and you knew they were unreliable or everything they touch turns to shit. You learn to avoid them and keep them off your scene if you can just to maintain some calm and professionalism.
Men and women alike have this reaction, and there are just as many male cops who are disasters at life and you end up walking past them without speaking a word for years because they’re just bad for business and bad for your own career if you let them f*** up your scene.
I have no answers except some people simply aren’t cut out for it. Once that is determined they should immediately be let go with a ‘thanks for trying but your services are no longer needed here.’ Go turn in your gear. That is the only simple solution I can think of, but it’s next to impossible to get them removed.
Maybe make the probationary period 5 yrs instead of just 1.
I can almost guarantee if you ask some of those officers from the (department) video above they would say that this female was a f***ing walking disaster, a panic factory, and should’ve been let go long before this happened.
I had a guy at gun point one time who had just tried to cut my throat with razor blades chicken wired to his hand. He missed by inches, I drew on him and began issuing verbal orders for him to get on the ground and drop his weapon (I only saw the flash of blade as he swung at my throat and the sunlight reflecting off of it and thought it was a knife in his hand).
The stress of seeing all this happen up close and fast caused one of the two female officers with me to begin yelling into the radio that “he has a gun!” instead of just breathing and letting me maintain control of what I had. So responding officers start driving like crazy thinking bad guy has a gun and officers are in trouble when he didn’t and we weren’t. The only pistol out was mine.
But instead of processing information and acting accordingly the panic set in and she did the only thing she knew to do, call dispatch for help. Well Dispatch can’t help us right now so stfu and stay off the radio.
The second female officer on scene then proceeded to walk directly in front of my muzzle, which was pointed at bad guys chest, who was still only about 6’ feet away. She completely blocked my view for a split second before I put my hand on her shoulder and physically shoved her the f*** out of the way. I was left having to control both female officers on scene as well as a still unsecured, mentally unstable and armed suspect. He then proceeded to cut his own throat and collapse against a tree.
I don’t know what makes people’s brains turn to mush like that and what doesn’t. They had both been cops for a couple of years, tho still rookies, they should’ve learned by then to control their adrenaline and fall back on training. They didn’t.
We learned who was who on the job, and would have to get on the radio and call off certain responding units if they said they were going to your location and you knew they were unreliable or everything they touch turns to shit. You learn to avoid them and keep them off your scene if you can just to maintain some calm and professionalism.
Men and women alike have this reaction, and there are just as many male cops who are disasters at life and you end up walking past them without speaking a word for years because they’re just bad for business and bad for your own career if you let them f*** up your scene.
I have no answers except some people simply aren’t cut out for it. Once that is determined they should immediately be let go with a ‘thanks for trying but your services are no longer needed here.’ Go turn in your gear. That is the only simple solution I can think of, but it’s next to impossible to get them removed.
Maybe make the probationary period 5 yrs instead of just 1.
I can almost guarantee if you ask some of those officers from the (department) video above they would say that this female was a f***ing walking disaster, a panic factory, and should’ve been let go long before this happened.
I know it may be a bit inconvenient, however would you like to present any evidence of your assertion?
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There was testimony about this in the Potter trial. It’s a high stress situation and the persons brain subconsciously makes the wrong choice. Training minimizes how often it happens but doesn’t eliminate it.
Someone who has driven a car for decades may accidentally push the gas instead of the brakes when a person runs across the street. A pilot may use the wrong control etc. there are millions of police interactions each year and extremely few weapon mistakes Training, no matter how often or how intense, will never eliminate honest mistakes.
I know it may be a bit inconvenient, however would you like to present any evidence of your assertion?
Ex-officer Kim Potter found guilty of two counts of manslaughter for fatally shooting Daunte Wright | CNN
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While not common, officers have mistaken pistols for Tasers, sometimes with deadly outcomes. (Published 2021)
One of the most famous cases happened in 2009 in Oakland, Calif., where a transit officer shot and killed Oscar Grant III.
This article says it has happened at least 15 times. People are not machines, they make honest errors for a variety of reasons
At least 15 officers in the US have mistaken guns for Tasers. Three were convicted.
It happened in a flash. A deputy drew what he thought was his stun gun on a Black man who was fleeing, announcing his choice of weapon with a shout of “Taser!” But it was a pistol he pu…
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Force Science explains "slips-and-capture errors"
And other psychological phenomena that drove the fateful BART shooting
Oklahoma county to pay $6M to estate of slain black man
An Oklahoma county is paying $6 million to settle a federal civil rights lawsuit filed by the family of an unarmed black man who was fatally shot by a white former reserve deputy.
While not common, officers have mistaken pistols for Tasers, sometimes with deadly outcomes. (Published 2021)
One of the most famous cases happened in 2009 in Oakland, Calif., where a transit officer shot and killed Oscar Grant III.www.nytimes.com
This article says it has happened at least 15 times. People are not machines, they make honest errors for a variety of reasons
At least 15 officers in the US have mistaken guns for Tasers. Three were convicted.
It happened in a flash. A deputy drew what he thought was his stun gun on a Black man who was fleeing, announcing his choice of weapon with a shout of “Taser!” But it was a pistol he pu…
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2) Female offices are 14.8% of all officers yet commit a disproportional amount of negligence per capita.
3) Cherry picking select news articles by bias news sites that hate police and white men is not evidence.
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I don’t disagree there is a substantial physical ability difference between most men and women and in a physical situation whether it’s a race or need for strength, very few woman will be anywhere near the physical performance of an average man.
I’m for putting the best people in the right situation, regardless of race, gender, etc.
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View attachment 5641491) Article does not list sex of each offender of the 15; only 5.
Police officers | Data USA
Police officers are most often employed by the Justice, public order, & safety activities industry. The average yearly wage for Police officers was $70,446 in 2016. The top 3 most similar occupations to Police officers by wage are Other designers, Property, real estate, & community association...datausa.io
2) Female offices are 14.8% of all officers yet commit a disproportional amount of negligence per capita.
3) Cherry picking select news articles by bias news sites that hate police and white men is not evidence.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owvsLsmY6DE
I didn’t cherry pick jack shit, I googled it and posted a few of the search results. Go look for yourself then.
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So the only way women can get on the force is by suing and having a female judge declare it"discrimination".
Next time you call a cop I hope you get one of these "diversity" hires.
allen-1
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I'm a member of three gun clubs and shoot regularly at probably six others, plus infrequently at a couple others. At every club I've shot at, there is at least one if not more SO/RO who shouldn't be in position. They're just not competent. Yet they stay on because ???
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