Another respiratory virus from China (Coronavirus Megathread)

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The possibility that a leak from a laboratory in Wuhan, China is 'no longer being discounted' even though there is a balance of scientific advice that coronavirus was first transmitted to humans from a live animal market in Wuhan, according to senior sources from the British government.

However, they did not dispute the virus as "zoonotic," meaning its origins are from animals, said one member of Prime Minister Boris Johnson's emergency committee last night. It did not rule out that the virus first spread to humans after a leak from the Wuhan laboratory.

"There is a credible alternative view of the zoonotic theory based on the nature of the virus. Perhaps it is no coincidence that there is that laboratory in Wuhan. It is not discounted," according to a member of the 'Cobra' committee, that receives detailed classified briefings from the security services.
Laboratory Leak in Wuhan
Wuhan Virology Institute is considered to be the most advanced virology laboratory in mainland China. It is located ten miles from the infamous wildlife market and is supposed to be one of the most secure virology laboratories in the world.

In 2018, the state-run People's Daily newspaper said that the laboratory is capable of conducting experiments with highly pathogenic microorganisms like the deadly Ebola virus. Experts from the institute were the first to suggest that the genome of the coronavirus was 96 percent similar to one commonly found in bats.

There have been unverified reports that the workers at the virology institute became first infected after being sprayed by blood, and then spread the virus into the local population. This happened despite the institute's reputation for high security.

Another virology institute in Wuhan City is the Wuhan Centre for Disease Control. The laboratory is barely 3 miles away from the live animal market and believed to have carried out experiments on animals like bats to study the coronavirus transmission.
 

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Birx and the IMHE model "Experts" have once again revised their guestimates.....

Recall....we started at 2 million a couple weeks ago
Last week they revised it down to 1-200k
They've now revised it down to a total of 81,766 cases in the US on Aug 4 2020.......cumulative......total

Thats LESS than the totals reported by the CDC for the seasonal flu this year (83,000)

Yes.......thats a fatality rate LESS than that of the flu........


These people crashed the economy, drove piles of people out of work/business and now revise fatality rate down to that of the FLU!!!!!!!
100% fake news. JPK CNN.
Projections arent facts.
10's of Millions are infected with the flu every year. The flu death rates are .1% or less. Fact.
Covid is hovering at 1% or more.
Hospitals arent overwhelmed from the seasonal flu like they are with covid19.
Is this your Jade Helm?
 
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100% fake news.
10's of Millions are infected with the flu every year. The flu death rates are .1% or less. Fact.
Covid is hovering at 1% or more.
Hospitals arent overwhelmed from the seasonal flu like they are with covid19.
Is this your Jade Helm?
I'd say it's hard to pin down a 1% case fatality rate when we have no idea what the true denominator is (the untested masses), and no clear definition of which deaths go into the numerator. It's a wild guess right now.
 

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These people crashed the economy, drove piles of people out of work/business and now revise fatality rate down to that of the FLU!!!!!!!
Don't blame the health care types, they just made the recommendation.

Wall St. got a $5.5 trillion bailout already, with more to come. This bailout started last September with the REPO program, not this February. Ask yourself who really stands to benefit from the lockdown.
 

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I'd say it's hard to pin down a 1% case fatality rate when we have no idea what the true denominator is (the untested masses), and no clear definition of which deaths go into the numerator. It's a wild guess right now.
I'd say when the dust settles it's going to be significantly lower than 1%, assuming everyone gets some sort of (antibody?) test at some point.
 

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100% fake news. JPK CNN.
Projections arent facts.
10's of Millions are infected with the flu every year. The flu death rates are .1% or less. Fact.
Covid is hovering at 1% or more.
Hospitals arent overwhelmed from the seasonal flu like they are with covid19.
Is this your Jade Helm?
The beautiful thing about this is that you're so fooking triggered that you didnt bother to look and see that these are the models/predictions that Birx/Fauci and most states "health care experts" are using

They're back pedaling full speed now and predicting a fatality rate that matches the fooking flu

And these arseholes pushed politicians to shut the damn economy down over it.......

Ever heard the tale of the boy who cried wolf cuz thats exactly what the medical industrial policy wonks are now
 

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Don't blame the health care types, they just made the recommendation.

Wall St. got a $5.5 trillion bailout already, with more to come. This bailout started last September with the REPO program, not this February. Ask yourself who really stands to benefit from the lockdown.
They've been predicting end of the world outcomes and terrorizing politicians to shut the economy down/plunge the US into a Wu Flu Depression......when there were examples like SK, Taiwan and Japan where no such retardedness was required......so yea.....they own it
 

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They've been predicting end of the world outcomes and terrorizing politicians to shut the economy down/plunge the US into a Wu Flu Depression......when there were examples like SK, Taiwan and Japan where no such retardedness was required......so yea.....they own it
You might want to take another look at Japan... they just declared a state of emergency as their cases have started racking up.
 

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Birx and the IMHE model "Experts" have once again revised their guestimates.....

Recall....we started at 2 million a couple weeks ago
Last week they revised it down to 1-200k
They've now revised it down to a total of 81,766 cases in the US on Aug 4 2020.......cumulative......total

Thats LESS than the totals reported by the CDC for the seasonal flu this year (83,000)

Yes.......thats a fatality rate LESS than that of the flu........


These people crashed the economy, drove piles of people out of work/business and now revise fatality rate down to that of the FLU!!!!!!!
Let's see ... CIA says Wuhan had probably 20-40k dead in that province alone.

600 dead per day in NYC, and likely undercounted, and we don't know what fraction of population is infected so far, but it's probably not 100%.

Boris Johnson in ICU.

Mass graves in Iran

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At least two more members of the tragic New Jersey family ravaged by coronavirus have tested positive for the disease that’s already killed four of their kin and sickened eight others.

Elizabeth Fusco, the youngest of 11 children in a large, close-knit family, lost her mother and three siblings over the next few days, has herself tested positive."


Seems like a typical flu season to me.
 

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The beautiful thing about this is that you're so fooking triggered that you didnt bother to look and see that these are the models/predictions that Birx/Fauci and most states "health care experts" are using

They're back pedaling full speed now and predicting a fatality rate that matches the fooking flu

And these arseholes pushed politicians to shut the damn economy down over it.......

Ever heard the tale of the boy who cried wolf cuz thats exactly what the medical industrial policy wonks are now
The government WANTED to do this, that's why they listened.

This is similar imo to the Iraq invasion - where Washington went gung-ho into Iraq and then blamed it on faulty intelligence. They wouldn't have listened to the experts if they didn't already WANT to go into Iraq.
 

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The beautiful thing about this is that you're so fooking triggered that you didnt bother to look and see that these are the models/predictions that Birx/Fauci and most states "health care experts" are using

They're back pedaling full speed now and predicting a fatality rate that matches the fooking flu

And these arseholes pushed politicians to shut the damn economy down over it.......

Ever heard the tale of the boy who cried wolf cuz thats exactly what the medical industrial policy wonks are now
Models arent facts. Projections arent facts.
You ignore the numbers that actually exist. Dont hate the truth.
Mr. CNN, feed us more estimates instead if facts.
39 million contract the flu this season in the US alone vs only 1.2 million Corona worldwide.
Cases vs deaths =equals death rate.
Just because the same amount die doesnt mean its the same death rate.
This is math 101, percentages.
Truth can be scary at times.
 

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Let's see ... CIA says Wuhan had probably 20-40k dead in that province alone.

600 dead per day in NYC, and likely undercounted, and we don't know what fraction of population is infected so far, but it's probably not 100%.

Boris Johnson in ICU.

Mass graves in Iran

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At least two more members of the tragic New Jersey family ravaged by coronavirus have tested positive for the disease that’s already killed four of their kin and sickened eight others.

Elizabeth Fusco, the youngest of 11 children in a large, close-knit family, lost her mother and three siblings over the next few days, has herself tested positive."


Seems like a typical flu season to me.
US had 80k seasonal flu fatalities in 2018......media didnt report it because people are normalized/conditioned to accept it
US has had 83k fatalities so far this year of seasonal flu......see above wrt reporting/drama
Over 300k people die of cancer in the US every year......media never says boo

80k people dying of flu is certainly tragic.....but how is it somehow more tragic than what happens all day every day year after year after year that gets ignored.....?

You dont see gov shuttering businesses over it.....you dont see 5 trillion dollars getting printed out of thin air

Doesnt matter if its seasonal flu or wu flu.....death by choking on your own fluids and not being able to breath is a shitty way to go

But lets stop letting the medical industrial morons leading the charge to drive us into a depression foot off the gas pedal
 

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The government WANTED to do this, that's why they listened.

This is similar imo to the Iraq invasion - where Washington went gung-ho into Iraq and then blamed it on faulty intelligence. They wouldn't have listened to the experts if they didn't already WANT to go into Iraq.
Think about what you posted

You think Trump or Sununu WANTED to crash the economy?

Of COURSE NOT
 

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Models arent facts. Projections arent facts.
You ignore the numbers that actually exist. Dont hate the truth.
Mr. CNN, feed us more estimates instead if facts.
39 million contract the flu this season in the US alone vs only 1.2 million Corona worldwide.
Cases vs deaths =equals death rate.
Just because the same amount die doesnt mean its the same death rate.
This is math 101, percentages.
Truth can be scary at times.
This still applies below cuz you didnt read it, the models nor did you grasp whats been foisted on the american people by the people that gave us obama care

The beautiful thing about this is that you're so fooking triggered that you didnt bother to look and see that these are the models/predictions that Birx/Fauci and most states "health care experts" are using

They're back pedaling full speed now and predicting a fatality rate that matches the fooking flu

And these arseholes pushed politicians to shut the damn economy down over it.......

Ever heard the tale of the boy who cried wolf cuz thats exactly what the medical industrial policy wonks are now
 

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US had 80k seasonal flu fatalities in 2018......media didnt report it because people are normalized/conditioned to accept it
US has had 83k fatalities so far this year of seasonal flu......see above wrt reporting/drama
Over 300k people die of cancer in the US every year......media never says boo

80k people dying of flu is certainly tragic.....but how is it somehow more tragic than what happens all day every day year after year after year that gets ignored.....?
You forgot half the math.
You have to factor in the amount of cases contracted vs deaths.
Your leaving out critical data that shows the death rate.
But, obviously your ignoring that data on purpose.
Mr. CNN
Corona is worse than influenza.
Apples and oranges.
Influenza doesn't overwhelm hospitals and equipment like Corona has in the last month.
 

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If what they're doing was working, why are they declaring a state of emergency now?
Probably for the much the same reason states in the US do....because it frees up money, regulations and a pile of other shit

Could be for seasonal flu.....they had a horrific flu season last year........
 

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You forgot half the math.
You have to factor in the amount of cases contracted vs deaths.
Your leaving out critical data that shows the death rate.
But, obviously your ignoring that data on purpose.
Mr. CNN
ROFLMAO

It pathetic that some of you are soooooo invested in death, destruction and poverty that your actually disappointed and massively butt hurt that ONLY 80 thousand fatalities will come out of Wu Flu according to the revised predictions

Given the fact that Wu Flu has an R0 of around 3 that means that its far far far more prevalent in the population......which means that the fatality rate is even LOWER than the last estimate of .66
 

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Think about what you posted

You think Trump or Sununu WANTED to crash the economy?

Of COURSE NOT
Trump was forced into this - imagine if he alone refused to do the lockdown?

The power brokers in this country have for years wanted to bail out our massive ballooning debts, both corporate and Federal. They needed a good excuse that the public would accept, and this is the perfect one.
 

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You might want to take another look at Japan... they just declared a state of emergency as their cases have started racking up.
Yes, Japan today announced a state of emergency.

They also today announced a trillion dollar bailout of their stock markets, paid for - like ours - by central bank printing.

Seeing a pattern here?
 

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Trump was forced into this - imagine if he alone refused to do the lockdown?

The power brokers in this country have for years wanted to bail out our massive ballooning debts, both corporate and Federal. They needed a good excuse that the public would accept, and this is the perfect one.
Who has to imagine......they never stopped trying to make him look bad/manufacture excuses to make up stories about him

Take article in necn today......

Acting as if there were NO studies performed on chloroquine yet.....and trump just picked the drug randomly and started suggesting that it could be a treatment......

 

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Yes, Japan today announced a state of emergency.

They also today announced a trillion dollar bailout of their stock markets, paid for - like ours - by central bank printing.

Seeing a pattern here?
Don't you understand, the Government doesn't have a penny of its own money. Bailouts can only be paid for by the taxpayer or the buyers of services. These bailouts have only added more debt on top of already massive debt.
 
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Yes, Japan today announced a state of emergency.

They also today announced a trillion dollar bailout of their stock markets, paid for - like ours - by central bank printing.

Seeing a pattern here?
The pattern is that they're heavily dependent on the US

And the US is shut down....China similarly is still largely shut down......

the point is this doesnt have to be a stupid/draconian shut down
 

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Who has to imagine......they never stopped trying to make him look bad/manufacture excuses to make up stories about him

Take article in necn today......

Acting as if there were NO studies performed on chloroquine yet.....and trump just picked the drug randomly and started suggesting that it could be a treatment......

Nobody reads that crap - but stories of kids dying being plastered all over the news and blaming Trump, that'd be tough even for him to stomach.

It's a game of chess, and Wall St. and the Deep State are very good at it. Trump was smart not to try to stop the lockdown.
 

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ROFLMAO

It pathetic that some of you are soooooo invested in death, destruction and poverty that your actually disappointed and massively butt hurt that ONLY 80 thousand fatalities will come out of Wu Flu according to the revised predictions

Given the fact that Wu Flu has an R0 of around 3 that means that its far far far more prevalent in the population......which means that the fatality rate is even LOWER than the last estimate of .66
Says the guy petrified to admit the actual numbers and actual cases vs deaths.
Leave out the numbers, face the scary truth.
Jade helm.
 
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