Another respiratory virus from China (Coronavirus Megathread)

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Hong Kong authorities stepped up monitoring of airports and train stations Saturday in response to a mysterious outbreak of a viral pneumonia.

Officials activated a new “serious response” level, which indicates a moderate impact on Hong Kong’s 7.5 million people, The Associated Press said. It is the second highest in a three-tier system that is part of a new government plan launched Saturday to respond to infectious diseases of unknown cause.

The outbreak started last month in the mainland city of Wuhan, a city about 600 miles northwest of Hong Kong. At least 44 people have fallen ill, with 11 of them in critical condition, the South China Morning Post reported.

All were being treated in isolation and 121 others who had been in close contact with them were under observation. So far, no medical workers have been infected and there have been no clear indications of human-to-human transmission of the disease.

Many of the ill worked at a seafood market that also sold live wild animals like rabbits and birds that can carry viruses dangerous to humans. Avian flu has been ruled out, along with influenza.

While the market has been scoured, the outbreak has prompted worries about the return of the 2002-2003 SARS epidemic that started in southern China and killed nearly 800 people and infected more than 8,000 in the mainland, Hong Kong and elsewhere.

The most common symptom is fever, with shortness of breath and lung infections in a small number of cases, the Wuhan Health Commission said.

Hong Kong’s health department added an additional thermal imaging system at the city’s airport to check the body temperature of arriving passengers. Temperature checks are also being done at the West Kowloon high-speed rail station that connects Hong Kong to the mainland.

Screening measures were also adopted in Singapore and Taiwan.

The World Health Organization is “closely monitoring” the outbreak.
 

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I'm afraid that this may end up as megathread very soon

Now in South Korea. That makes 4 countries detected in about a week. China, Japan, Thailand and South Korea. There is also no doubt there is human to human transmission as 15 health care workers are now infected.

They confirmed a few hundred cases. Word is it's likely in the thousands by now.

Consider that the market where this originated is in the city of Wuhan which is home to 11 million people. The market is a block away from a major rail station. Couple that with the fact that People in China are traveling all over the continent celebrating the lunar new year.

This thing is out of the box. I'd suggest everyone start paying attention
 
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I'm afraid that this may end up as megathread very soon

Now in South Korea. That makes 4 countries detected in about a week. China, Japan, Thailand and South Korea. There is also no doubt there is human to human transmission as 15 health care workers are now infected.

Last numbers while they've confirmed a few hundred cases word is it's likely in the thousands by now.

Consider that the market where this originated is in the city of Wuhan which is home to 11 million people. The market is a block away from a major rail station. Couple that with the fact that People in China are traveling all over the continent celebrating the lunar new year.

This thing is out of the box. I'd suggest everyone start paying attention
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Noticed some Caucasian women at Market Basket today with Masks and Rubber Gloves shopping...
 

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Tinfoil = on - More shit from Deus Ex becoming true.... ?

In the game they created a virus called the Gray Death. Versalife manufactured it in Hong Kong. Then the conspirators loaded it on a ship and docked helicopters to it, and started spraying populations with it....



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zStn70Ot4r0
 

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An infected woman caught on a flight from Wuhan to Taiwan likely infecting people on that flight. Singapore is now in play as well with 7 suspected cases

Wuhan virus outbreak: Singapore female resident, 44, is 7th suspected case here


If anyone is interested in tracking developments I'd suggest you follow fluTrackers.com on Twitter. They translate local in region news and information. Their actual site is tough, but their tweets link directly to the stories should you want to read the details yourself
 

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CDC expected to announce first US case of Wuhan coronavirus

(CNN)The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is expected to announce this afternoon that the first case of Wuhan coronavirus has been reported in the United States, in Washington state, a federal source outside the CDC tells CNN.
The source is involved in the matter and was made aware of a CDC media briefing scheduled for later today.
 

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Wuhan Coronavirus: C.D.C. Identifies First U.S. Case in Washington State

A person in Washington State is infected with the Wuhan coronavirus, the first confirmed case in the United States of a mysterious respiratory infection that has killed at least six people and sickened hundreds more in Asia, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced on Tuesday.

Federal officials also announced expanded screenings for the infection at major airports in the United States. In addition to New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, airports in Atlanta and Chicago will begin examining passengers arriving from Wuhan for signs of illness.

The infected man, a resident of Snohomish County, Wash., who is in his 30s, developed symptoms after returning from a trip to the region around Wuhan, China, where the outbreak began.

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First Patient With Wuhan Coronavirus Is Identified in the U.S.
 

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This thing is spreading fast!

 

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Is it me or does it seem that the "authorities" are taking more action than normal but in the same breath downplay the transmission from human to human and overall risk?
 

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More media hysteria bs. The amount of people infected vs deaths is around a 1.3% mortality rate. It sounds like little more than a moderately nasty flu season. Pneumonia has a mortality rate of around 10% for comparison, and thats been around forever. Never mind that theyre not reporting that the majority of deaths are probably very elderly folks with a boatload of comorbidities.

The stock market slipped yesterday because of this "OMG we're all gonna die" horseshit. Slow news day = lets put people into a panic for no reason and cost people money while doing so.

Phase 2 will be "How can we tie this into climate change and really get some mileage out of it?".
 
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More media hysteria bs. The amount of people infected vs deaths is around a 1.3% mortality rate. It sounds like little more than a moderately nasty flu season. Pneumonia has a mortality rate of around 10% for comparison, and thats been around forever. Never mind that theyre not reporting that the majority of deaths are probably very elderly folks with a boatload of comorbidities.
Do you believe the numbers out of China? I sure as hell don't. It may be nothing, but it certainly is something to keep an eye on.
 

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More media hysteria bs. The amount of people infected vs deaths is around a 1.3% mortality rate. It sounds like little more than a moderately nasty flu season. Pneumonia has a mortality rate of around 10% for comparison, and thats been around forever. Never mind that theyre not reporting that the majority of deaths are probably very elderly folks with a boatload of comorbidities.

The stock market slipped yesterday because of this "OMG we're all gonna die" horseshit. Slow news day = lets put people into a panic for no reason and cost people money while doing so.

Phase 2 will be "How can we tie this into climate change and really get some mileage out of it?".
Allow me to reframe this. The case fatality rate currently sits at about 2% based on numbers from this morning. That's two out of every hundred infected who die. This number will likely and hopefully go down and in fact maybe much lower right now due to a lack of reporting.

Let's assume for a minute that the number is accurate. The Spanish flu of 1918 was also a 2% case fatality rate. That resulted in an estimated 70 + million people dying across the globe. Of course the population was much lower back then and cross-continental transportation was not as easy and fast as it is today.

Yes, Medical interventions are better today but the spread is exponentially faster and can easily overwhelm the healthcare systems. There are only so many ventilators.

Pneumonia which people develop and the flu which people catch seasonally do not have sustained human to human transmission. What we're likely looking at here is a pandemic That's where nearly everyone in the population of the globe is easily infected from casual contact of people , surfaces and even close proximity.

I personally am not downplay the potential implications
 

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Do you believe the numbers out of China? I sure as hell don't. It may be nothing, but it certainly is something to keep an eye on.
Very possible that China could be lying. Every 6-10 years though there is some new pandemic scare that turns out to be a big nothing burger after the media breathlessly salivates over it for a few months. SARS, swine flu, ebola. These are all very real and serious illnesses. However once the media gets wind of it, one would think we're on the brink of world war Z after watching cable news for 15 minutes. The media is a massive fear machine. Fear about viruses, fear about climate change, and fear about firearms is what gets ratings and people riled up to tune into more.
 

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Allow me to reframe this. The case fatality rate currently sits at about 2% based on numbers from this morning.
That is true if the numbers being provided are accurately counting the number of people infected. That is quite a bit harder to ascertain then deaths from the virus and is probably only counting the current number of hospital cases. My guess is that there are quite a bit more people infected that have not sought medical care and most likely called out sick from work for a few days. If that is the case the mortality rate is actually falsely high. But that wouldnt make for a great news story though.
 

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Very possible that China could be lying. Every 6-10 years though there is some new pandemic scare that turns out to be a big nothing burger after the media breathlessly salivates over it for a few months. SARS, swine flu, ebola. These are all very real and serious illnesses. However once the media gets wind of it, one would think we're on the brink of world war Z after watching cable news for 15 minutes. The media is a massive fear machine. Fear about viruses, fear about climate change, and fear about firearms is what gets ratings and people riled up to tune into more.
Totally agree with your entire comment. I do what I can to track information based on local reporting not on US Mainstream media. Even the CDC and WHO who have Risk communication teams to feed information to the masses to control desired behavior so you need to read between the lines of what they're telling us.

Few truly understand the impact of a global pandemic with a 2% CFR. If we hit that we're looking at the world grinding to a halt in a matter of weeks. Local Asian news reports are already reporting the hoarding of medical supplies needed to treat. Note that 90+% of all medical supplies are manufactured in China, (Like masks and gloves) A huge percentage of ingredients used in medicines come from china as well. The biggest risk civilized society has is our "just in time economy" EVERYTHING moves from truck to shelves. There is NO storage. We've all seen those pallets in the aisle at the grocery store waiting to be unloaded. They came off the truck and on to the floor. There is nothing in the back.

Why is this important? It means that if trucking is interrupted even a little bit due to travel and shipping restrictions or even drivers not showing up for work, we're all in very big trouble. Shortages of Food, fuel, chlorine for local water treatment facilities, the list goes on and on. My hope is that this is a nothing burger, however luck favors the prepared and everyone should be at least be thinking about a game plan should this turn into a total shitshow
 
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