Another Bartley Fox nightmare story

[nstassel]

A reputable lawyer told me about a current client's story. He is charged with unlawful possession of a firearm and ammo in Middlesex County. The DA won't dismiss it so he's looking at a year.

The guy has no record at all. He's a resident of NH. His brother told him he'd rented a house for a week in Maine. The brother drives him to the house which isn't in Maine but Massachusetts. When the guy realizes he is in Massachusetts he says to the brother "wtf I have a gun in my bag you need to take me home." The brother refuses to take him home and the guy gets out to walk back to Mass.

On the highway a trooper sees him walking on a highway which is against the law. The trooper agrees to give him a ride but asks him if there's anything in the bag that shouldn't be in there and the guy says there's a gun...

Motion to suppress was denied. The gun is loaded so FOPA technically doesn't apply.

Edit (since some are questioning whether anyone could be this stupid):

This conversation took place at a court party with the prosecutor's supervisor present who consceded the basic facts. It was said in their presence to see if I could pressure the prosecutor with whom I have a good relationship to work out a dismissal of some type.

 

[240Geezer]

That's pretty funny

 

[zboys]

I know your a respected lawyer, but that story smells BS all over it

 

[Sparky123]

Massachusetts laws are stupid but in order to work around them you have to be smart. A guy from NH walking on a Massachusetts highway with a gun, well, let's just say that's not very smart. Who walks on a highway? This could be one of those stories for America's Dumbest Criminals. Hey! We all make stupid mistakes, but this is one that this guy may have to live with for the rest of his life.

 

[ProGun]

If true, his brother is a douchebag (and an idiot) and the guy is a fool for getting out of the car on the highway with a gun in his bag. Lots of fail all the way around.

 

[namedpipes]

I know your a respected lawyer, but that story smells BS all over it

Not on the basis of the first post.

 

[TrackDayRdr]

NH resident thinks he's going to ME but somehow doesn't realize he's heading in the opposite direction of ME? And he gets out on the highway and tries to walk home...via the highway?

I'm no movie critic, but this seems to be just another poorly written Disney production.

 

[namedpipes]

NH resident thinks he's going to ME but somehow doesn't realize he's heading in the opposite direction of ME? And he gets out on the highway and tries to walk home...via the highway?

I'm no movie critic, but this seems to be just another poorly written Disney production.

Have you ever actually driven from Central NH to Maine? It is often faster to follow the main highways which will bring you through Mass. Whether that's what happened is anybody's guess. Key word guess.

Getting out of the car on an interstate with a gun in his backpack, yeah, not the brightest move, but I imagine he was thinking with his anger at stupid brother, not his head.

 

[drgrant]

Lol this sounds exactly like another story someone posted here. Although it unfolding in real life is certainly plausible... NervousGuy overreacting is what really caused this problem tho.

 

[BostonVI]

I was sympathetic right up until "started walking along the highway."

Putting this guy in jail is stupid, but walking along the highway is literally the opposite of keeping a low profile.

 

[nstassel]

I know your a respected lawyer, but that story smells BS all over it

I am only repeating what I was told but the basics are true that the guy was walking down the road and is from NH with no record.

 

[drgrant]

I was sympathetic right up until "started walking along the highway."

Putting this guy in jail is stupid, but walking along the highway is literally the opposite of keeping a low profile.

This is kind of what I'm driving at the people who actually freak out a little too much about gun laws are actually the ones more likely to get caught violating them because they can't even fathom quietly violating a shitty law. They are consumed with so much fear that it paralyzes them and thereafter, makes them go full retard.

This guy done went full retard, and paid the price.....

 

[Quite_Exasperated]

Whatever happened to that group of guys from RI that caused Rt. 128 or 95 to be shutdown a year or two ago? Did they use their racial privilege to avoid charges? They were on the highway brandishing iirc.

 

[Deleted member 12999]

When keeping it real goes wrong.

 

[Palladin]

Whatever happened to that group of guys from RI that caused Rt. 128 or 95 to be shutdown a year or two ago? Did they use their racial privilege to avoid charges? They were on the highway brandishing iirc.

The Siege of I-95

It began with a routine stop in the dead of night near the outskirts of Wakefield.

www.bostonmagazine.com

Rise of the Moors highway standoff: Where the cases stand now

It has been just about a year since an armed militia group called the Rise of the Moors held an hours long standoff with police on Route 95 in Wakefield.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[ThePreBanMan]

Should have had brother drop him at a gas station and catch an uber home. The guy was just trying to do right by the stupid law and gets jammed up for it.

 

[Georgiak9]

Why do I feel that drugs and/or copious amounts of alcohol were omitted from the story?

 

[Marty McFly]

Maybe they were staying near the Natick mall

 

[Rob Boudrie]

If true, his brother is a douchebag (and an idiot) and the guy is a fool for getting out of the car on the highway with a gun in his bag. Lots of fail all the way around.

And completely undermined any possibility of his attorney disputing a search, or even using the prospect of doing so in plea negotiations.

 

[drgrant]

Why do I feel that drugs and/or copious amounts of alcohol were omitted from the story?

Apparently you've never had the displeasure of meeting a gun law pant shitter. Those people are really like that.

 

[Shark_Cage]

How do you mistake Massachusetts with Maine and you’re from New Hampshire. We’re not talking about the brightest bulbs in the display.

 

[HARRYM]

I reputable lawyer told me about a current client's story. He is charged with unlawful possession of a firearm and ammo in Middlesex County. The DA won't dismiss it so he's looking at a year.

The guy has no record at all. He's a resident of NH. His brother told him he'd rented a house for a week in Maine. The brother drives him to the house which isn't in Maine but Massachusetts. When the guy realizes he is in Massachusetts he says to the brother "wtf I have a gun in my bag you need to take me home." The brother refuses to take him home and the guy gets out to walk back to Mass.

On the highway a trooper sees him walking on a highway which is against the law. The trooper agrees to give him a ride but asks him if there's anything in the bag that shouldn't be in there and the guy says there's a gun...

Motion to suppress was denied. The gun is loaded so FOPA technically doesn't apply.

Has anyone actually ever served the one year mandatory sentence?

 

[DJBrad]

Apparently you've never had the displeasure of meeting a gun law pant shitter. Those people are really like that.

You make it too easy



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[nstassel]

Has anyone actually ever served the one year mandatory sentence?

Yes...the mandatory was increased to 18 mos many years ago and people get it all the time. Ridiculously common.

 

[EJFudd]

Sorry, but that's the worst story I've ever read here... or anywhere else. Something ain't right with the facts here.

 

[fencer]

You guys do know that when traveling north on 95, you go from Mass to NH, to Maine in about 10 minutes, right?

 

[HARRYM]

Yes...the mandatory was increased to 18 mos many years ago and people get it all the time. Ridiculously common.

MSN

www.msn.com

Then how does this person only get a 2 year sentence for fentanyl AND and gun charge. We yell and scream that fentanyl is killing our young people and this person gets a slap on the wrist?

 

[Marty McFly]

You guys do know that when traveling north on 95, you go from Mass to NH, to Maine in about 10 minutes, right?

Wait they're connected?

 

[Partup]

"Lawyer's story". Most likely not narrated exactly how it happened.

 

[headednorth]

NH resident thinks he's going to ME but somehow doesn't realize he's heading in the opposite direction of ME? And he gets out on the highway and tries to walk home...via the highway?

I'm no movie critic, but this seems to be just another poorly written Disney production.

This. Smells like fish