Is there some other work of fiction you feel it should be based on? "The legend of nim gun shop" or perhaps "Of mice and guns"...
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Is there some other work of fiction you feel it should be based on? "The legend of nim gun shop" or perhaps "Of mice and guns"...
Just curious. I don't have a problem with either side in this "mini debate" but would those who are upset with the poster for saying he has a problem with a biblical reference in a store name...
Would you be as supportive of the business if it was called "Qu'ran Arms"
Since they are members here, has anyone PM'd them that they might want to take a peek in at this thread?
i agree to some point, first the comment made here is accurate for the most part, the other is there is no draft, so many young ones
have no exposure to guns. i was brought up in a family where no one hunted or shot. for someone to go to a gun store
with no knowledge could be dangerous. i never saw a gun until i got to boot camp.
he's a gun shop owner opening in hostile territory. I can't blame him if he's towing the line given the maggots in government whod think nothing of finding a way to screw with his business for uttering a criticism of how things work here.
Personally, I think he was stating that every gun shop should strive to educate their customer.
Knowing both Mike and Matt - If you are in the store, just ask. They may not have realized how their comments sounded played against our aggressive view of the subject.
Next time I see Matt or Mike, I will ask.
I have had several lengthy conversations with those guys and my anti-sense never tingled. They seem to be good guys excited about guns and the new shop. I certainly never heard anything in favor of the Ma bullshit. If anything the conversations centered around how ridiculous everything is here. I wouldn't be surprised to find out they were "creatively quoted" by the journalist.
You may want to actually go meet them before ripping them up here because of something you read in the FR Herald of all things. You may as well be basing life decisions on info from the Onion...
Im with this not to long ago the same paper ran a letter in the opinion section ripping the city for letting 2 gun shops in the south end saying it was going to increase crime. IMHO the guy who wrote it was and uneducated moonbat.
I was in the store last week and the guys were super nice, took the time to say welcome as soon as i came in even though he was helping other customers.
Knowing Matt and mike i would say its out of context.
I know the fellas over there fairly well now My wife.and her friends took a class at the shop.. I will say the quote is likely taken out of context... That's what news reporters do they chop up what you say.... They use one quote put it in "quotes" and use it as they see fit.... I am actually surprised this came out as gun friendly as it did.. Spend 10 minutes in that shop..... You will see how they feel....Its quite obvious when you look around..... Make a trip down or over
People with businesses never have a moment off, especially a new biz that took a year+ to get opened.I talked to him on the phone.
Not for nothing but he woks at the shop tuesday-saturday. From sunrise to sunset.
I sure he is spending time with his family today.
You have people that Actually go to the shop posting in this thread and sharing there expirences.
And then you have others just judging the shop from what the Herald said.
Since they are members here, has anyone PM'd them that they might want to take a peek in at this thread?
Here is where I will get flamed and if you feel this is a coming out or showing your colors thing, so be it. I do NOT agree MASS has it right. Having said that, I have no problem with the US being shall issue like NH, but I also do not have a problem with having to have someone demonstrate some level of proficiency in a safe gun handling course in order for a ccw permit. The course would be loading, unloading and handling. The state or certified people (NRA or what ever) could administer the class. As for the cost, I would do it for nothing if need be.
I had an open mind on this but this is what I currently think.
Hello NES community,
Forgive the late reply, the shop is normally closed today and a friend of mine sent me a text about this thread.
Many of the posts with this thread could not be further wrong from our actual interview with the reporter. There were several things listed in these pages from people that were taken upside down, backwards and haywire.
First off we love guns, we would not have spent the time, money and effort to open a gun shop in Massachusetts if we didn't think we could be trying to help gun owners. As an NRA instructor my stance is that safety with firearms is crucial. The last thing we need for people who don't like firearms is a reason to point and tell us responsible owners that we shouldn't own guns because of carelessness. There are plenty of news articles and YouTube videos as examples. I understand that anyone who wants an LTC must have a safety course, so therefore if you own a business "why wouldn't you offer a class."
The quote about "Massachusetts doing things right" was in reference to the Mircs system and background checks. Living in Rhode Island and having to wait 7 days to get a firearm after running my NICS is batty. It would be very convenient to have RI do a check so we could get our firearms same day like Massachusetts. I do NOT like the idea of having the Massachusetts gun registry so the state knows what I have. People made it sound like we were making new laws or regulations to curb firearms.
The quote regarding "not having to sell a gun and making a difference in someone's life is a victory" is about our charity and contributions to the community and church. I still cannot understand why people who have never met myself, the owner or have even stepped foot into my shop dislike us or our business because we're Christians. Not once in any conversation with the people or customers have we been judging, snobby, snooty, or using some "holy than though" statement or actions. We have never "pushed or crammed" our views upon anyone regardless of their religious or non-religious views.
We have always been supportive of gun right for all Americans. I did not write the gun laws, neither did anyone else in our shop. We have always and will continue to have an open door policy at Ephesian Arms. We believe in accountability, considering that I have met lots of NES Members who have come into the shop to just say hi and who have taken some time to chat with us to learn what we're about. I'm hopefully thinking that since this is the reply to this post that we would get a fair and honest evaluation from our stance. If anyone here, or any gun owner as any questions or comments regarding our practices please contact me at our shop during normal hours or send me a message her at NES.
thank you all for your time, looking forward to seeing you sometime soon.
Godspeed,
Michael
Works for me.Hello NES community,
Forgive the late reply, the shop is normally closed today and a friend of mine sent me a text about this thread.
Many of the posts with this thread could not be further wrong from our actual interview with the reporter. There were several things listed in these pages from people that were taken upside down, backwards and haywire.
First off we love guns, we would not have spent the time, money and effort to open a gun shop in Massachusetts if we didn't think we could be trying to help gun owners. As an NRA instructor my stance is that safety with firearms is crucial. The last thing we need for people who don't like firearms is a reason to point and tell us responsible owners that we shouldn't own guns because of carelessness. There are plenty of news articles and YouTube videos as examples. I understand that anyone who wants an LTC must have a safety course, so therefore if you own a business "why wouldn't you offer a class."
The quote about "Massachusetts doing things right" was in reference to the Mircs system and background checks. Living in Rhode Island and having to wait 7 days to get a firearm after running my NICS is batty. It would be very convenient to have RI do a check so we could get our firearms same day like Massachusetts. I do NOT like the idea of having the Massachusetts gun registry so the state knows what I have. People made it sound like we were making new laws or regulations to curb firearms.
The quote regarding "not having to sell a gun and making a difference in someone's life is a victory" is about our charity and contributions to the community and church. I still cannot understand why people who have never met myself, the owner or have even stepped foot into my shop dislike us or our business because we're Christians. Not once in any conversation with the people or customers have we been judging, snobby, snooty, or using some "holy than though" statement or actions. We have never "pushed or crammed" our views upon anyone regardless of their religious or non-religious views.
We have always been supportive of gun right for all Americans. I did not write the gun laws, neither did anyone else in our shop. We have always and will continue to have an open door policy at Ephesian Arms. We believe in accountability, considering that I have met lots of NES Members who have come into the shop to just say hi and who have taken some time to chat with us to learn what we're about. I'm hopefully thinking that since this is the reply to this post that we would get a fair and honest evaluation from our stance. If anyone here, or any gun owner as any questions or comments regarding our practices please contact me at our shop during normal hours or send me a message her at NES.
thank you all for your time, looking forward to seeing you sometime soon.
Godspeed,
Michael
BTW to the people who asked earlyer, they build the AR's there and have a ?full? machine shop.
Bravo...
What continues to amaze me is how everyone around here distrusts the media, yet takes this story at face value. We just love to gobble up one of our own, don't we? The hypocrisy that is NES astounds me by leaps and bounds. We love to pound on our fellow 2A supporters if they don't buy into our other political agendas, we hate this guy because he uses a biblical reference to name his gun shop. His friggin' GUN shop.
The only way for you to get the facts IS GO TO THE SOURCE, otherwise believe everything you read in the media.
You don't know what context the questions were asked, and how the interview was edited and neither do I.
Some of you guys would have fit right in back in Salem in the early 1690's.
Despite the mountains of paperwork required to buy and possess a gun in Massachusetts, the state does a good job of managing the process of background checks and applications, Ford said.
“Massachusetts really does it right,” he said. “It is not often I say that about the state. It really should be looked at as a model for the rest of the country.”
His opinions on gun ownership don't bother me. If he based his shop's name on the bible, that does.
I know how media can twist things around and it can be difficult to keep statements concise enough that they can't be misunderstood. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers.
Second I would thank Mike for stepping up and posting in this thread, I will be stopping in to talk to you guys and make my own decisions.
His opinions on gun ownership don't bother me. If he based his shop's name on the bible, that does.