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Good, glad someone started an official Yang thread, and not surprised it's full of "hurr durr communism" bullshit.

Don't you people realize that Trump has shit all over his base? He hasn't gotten jack done compared to what he promised. He let that puss Paul Ryan defeat his plan for the wall. And notice that he gets cleared of any possible collusion right after he recognizes the Golan Heights as part of Israel. What happened to America First?

The reality is he may not win re-election.

So what then? Y'all want to see a Kamala/Beto victory? Because THAT'S the most probable D ticket at this point. And remember I was one who called a Trump victory early on. When most people on this site were incredulous and scoffed at the notion, I not only knew, but did my small part to meme it into reality.

Well, the meme makers who helped get Trump in have moved on to supporting Yang. Do I agree with his gun stance? HELL NO! But if you think Trump can expect an easy re-election you are kidding yourselves. Yang is a backup plan.

Why not try and control the outcome of the election no matter which party wins? Isn't that what the "deep state" has been doing for decades? The 2016 election showed that WE still have the power to take on the "deep state". They have shown that they can push back. Look at how they have Trump by the balls. It's sad, really. They probably have some shit on Trump WRT the times he's visited Epstein's island.

Yang is the most palatable Democrat running with potential. Tulsi is better, but her campaign is DOA. A Yang/Gabbard ticket would be the ultimate plan B, and another giant F.U. to the "deep state". So think tactically and support BOTH Trump and Yang. Goldman Sachs supports candidates on both tickets and they almost always get what they want.

I'll be posting all YangGang memes here for anyone that gets the bigger picture.
 

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I assume that if you pay >$1K in taxes you don't qualify.
So since I pay like $2k in taxes per month. I'll be supporting two other people? Yay. Er. No.

On the flip side, if I had a bank account delivered to me at the age of 18 with 200/month delivered into it from birth, I would have been in a very different situation at 1/5th the cost. Even if they kept the interest.
 
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Good, glad someone started an official Yang thread, and not surprised it's full of "hurr durr communism" bullshit.

Don't you people realize that Trump has shit all over his base? He hasn't gotten jack done compared to what he promised. He let that puss Paul Ryan defeat his plan for the wall. And notice that he gets cleared of any possible collusion right after he recognizes the Golan Heights as part of Israel. What happened to America First?

The reality is he may not win re-election.

So what then? Y'all want to see a Kamala/Beto victory? Because THAT'S the most probable D ticket at this point. And remember I was one who called a Trump victory early on. When most people on this site were incredulous and scoffed at the notion, I not only knew, but did my small part to meme it into reality.

Well, the meme makers who helped get Trump in have moved on to supporting Yang. Do I agree with his gun stance? HELL NO! But if you think Trump can expect an easy re-election you are kidding yourselves. Yang is a backup plan.

Why not try and control the outcome of the election no matter which party wins? Isn't that what the "deep state" has been doing for decades? The 2016 election showed that WE still have the power to take on the "deep state". They have shown that they can push back. Look at how they have Trump by the balls. It's sad, really. They probably have some shit on Trump WRT the times he's visited Epstein's island.

Yang is the most palatable Democrat running with potential. Tulsi is better, but her campaign is DOA. A Yang/Gabbard ticket would be the ultimate plan B, and another giant F.U. to the "deep state". So think tactically and support BOTH Trump and Yang. Goldman Sachs supports candidates on both tickets and they almost always get what they want.

I'll be posting all YangGang memes here for anyone that gets the bigger picture.


Problem is, the Dem primary is rigged with "superdelegates", in the end, the DNC does the anointing. How does he get around that?
 
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Good, glad someone started an official Yang thread, and not surprised it's full of "hurr durr communism" bullshit.

Don't you people realize that Trump has shit all over his base? He hasn't gotten jack done compared to what he promised. He let that puss Paul Ryan defeat his plan for the wall. And notice that he gets cleared of any possible collusion right after he recognizes the Golan Heights as part of Israel. What happened to America First?

The reality is he may not win re-election.

So what then? Y'all want to see a Kamala/Beto victory? Because THAT'S the most probable D ticket at this point. And remember I was one who called a Trump victory early on. When most people on this site were incredulous and scoffed at the notion, I not only knew, but did my small part to meme it into reality.

Well, the meme makers who helped get Trump in have moved on to supporting Yang. Do I agree with his gun stance? HELL NO! But if you think Trump can expect an easy re-election you are kidding yourselves. Yang is a backup plan.

Why not try and control the outcome of the election no matter which party wins? Isn't that what the "deep state" has been doing for decades? The 2016 election showed that WE still have the power to take on the "deep state". They have shown that they can push back. Look at how they have Trump by the balls. It's sad, really. They probably have some shit on Trump WRT the times he's visited Epstein's island.

Yang is the most palatable Democrat running with potential. Tulsi is better, but her campaign is DOA. A Yang/Gabbard ticket would be the ultimate plan B, and another giant F.U. to the "deep state". So think tactically and support BOTH Trump and Yang. Goldman Sachs supports candidates on both tickets and they almost always get what they want.

I'll be posting all YangGang memes here for anyone that gets the bigger picture.
Yang's plan might not work. But I don't think it's the worst plan I've heard from Democrats. As the5thdentist said, someone is going to running against trump. Who do you want that person be? Whoever voted for Hillary won't switch sides in 2020. Whoever voted for trump, might be disapointed at this moment. Trump didn't divide the country, Obama did it. But the situation is worse, God knows what will happen in 2020. Yang is the only democrat that I will be okay to sit back and watch if shit happnes.
 

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"Freedom Dividends," let's get it right...
Exactly. Why does he call it that? He focus-group'd it to conservatives. Found they were more receptive when he didn't call it UBI. He's trying to cater to the stupid of both parties.

So how does this work, do they just send me an extra 1k or is it deducted automatically from my taxes that are withheld? Or, more likely, will my taxes go up 2k per month then they "give back" 1k of that and act like they are so wonderful to me?
It works like this. Everyone gets $1,000/mo or $12,000 per year. Some will get it in the form of a tax rebate. A lot will just get checks.

About 8 nanoseconds later, the cost of everything rises by about 30%. Suddenly, $12K ain't gonna do S-word. (Not to mention in most of the country, $12K/mo aint' getting rid of welfare plus Section 8 plus WIC and other programs. We're still going to have all of them.). So now we need $2K/mo. 8 nanoseconds later, we need $4K/mo. And so on and so on.

Even your most basic undgrad Econ major understand that if you GIVE everyone $, you're just going to increase inflation. Your net effect is actually negative. I mean, look at freaking Finland.

Finland Is Ending Its Universal Basic Income Experiment

Either Norway or Sweden, I think Norway, has a pile of $ from the oil industry. IIRC, it's hte 3rd highest cost of living in Europe. Because of all of this excess $ being spent willy-nilly.

I listened to him with Joe Rogan. He compared his plan to dividends that Alaskans get for oil. His plan is to do away with many welfare programs to offset the dividend. Then supposedly people will spend it on small business and whatnot. Obvious downfall is that naturally smart people will save/invest and poor people will still be poor, but have nicer tv's and sneakers and the welfare programs will never go away.

His plan was not as hairbrained as it sounds, but it won't work because bad decision makers will always make bad decisions.

I think they also talked about his gun control stance and he said he didn't really have any opinion yet either way.

I dont support him, but it was an interesting podcast even though it made me pull my hair out at times
They won't stop welfare. It isn't enough to stop welfare. And economics says it will fail. See article above from Socialist Finland.
 

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Problem is, the Dem primary is rigged with "superdelegates", in the end, the DNC does the anointing. How does he get around that?
He probably doesn't. But having him in the debates is all I really care about. Those shitshows are usually so controlled that they are a joke. I'm glad he's going to be on stage. Now if we could only get enough donations so that Tulsi can be up there too...

And debate participation is based off of 65,000 individual donors, not amounts. So anyone want to toss Tulsi a couple of bucks it will help. No, I have no connection to either campaign other than following my own advice.
 

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You have to admit the vaporwave Yang 2020 hat is peak 80s aesthetic.

Plus with the $1000/mo you can nab those preban ARs and AKs.
 

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The plan is to pay for UBI with a 10% VAT on goods and services.

Add 10% to everything you buy and see if you’re ahead of the game.

Keep in mind that everyone pays the 10% VAT and not everyone gets the 12K/ year.

(BTW my business would probably make a killing on this but UBI is total Communist spread the wealth bullshit )

ETA: In other words, the people who will come out on top will be the people who sell a product to people who are flush with an extra grand a month to get rid of.

They’ll make far more than the 10% they’re paying in VAT.
 

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If not everyone gets UBI, then how can they call.it universal? [laugh]

-Mike
Great question.

Even better if everyone gets it. People would have to spend an average of $120,000.00 per year to pay the 10% VAT to pay for the $12,000.00 they’re getting back in UBI.

How stupid can people be?

Free money. What a country.

ETA: Here’s a little about the 10% VAT. It turns out the people who won’t receive UBI would be people collecting more than $1,000.00 per month in welfare who would likely opt out of UBI for the more lucrative welfare.

How would we pay for Universal Basic Income? - Andrew Yang for President

Here’s an interview with Joe Rogan:

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8weVou_jmoI


Yang seems to have figured out that once money is spent it doesn’t disappear and a percentage of it goes back to the .gov.

What’s not to like?
 
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Great question.

Even better if everyone gets it. People would have to spend an average of $120,000.00 per year to pay the 10% VAT to pay for the $12,000.00 they’re getting back in UBI.

How stupid can people be?

Free money. What a country.

ETA: Here’s a little about the 10% VAT. It turns out the people who won’t receive UBI would be people collecting more than $1,000.00 per month in welfare who would likely opt out of UBI for the more lucrative welfare.

How would we pay for Universal Basic Income? - Andrew Yang for President

Here’s an interview with Joe Rogan:

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8weVou_jmoI


Yang seems to have figured out that once money is spent it doesn’t disappear and a percentage of it goes back to the .gov.

What’s not to like?
Yang's site says he expects many welfare recipients to take the bag since it's no strings attached...the concern there is that if they waste it all, they'll still be needing/wanting more money. That inevitably leads to push coming to shove.

I do have to hand it to Yang, not letting Boomers get the bag is the ultimate way for millennials and Gen X to get their revenge.
 

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What strings are currently attached to welfare? Is having a pulse really that high of a hurdle?
I think what @daekken means is that most welfare money is earmarked. They get free rent but never touch the money. SNAP is supposed to go to food only and health insurance is for medical care.

The argument for paying people more and getting them off welfare is that if they have more cash in hand they’ll blow it on everything but rent and healthcare.

As @fencer put it, heroin.
 

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I think what @daekken means is that most welfare money is earmarked. They get free rent but never touch the money. SNAP is supposed to go to food only and health insurance is for medical care.

The argument for paying people more and getting them off welfare is that if they have more cash in hand they’ll blow it on everything but rent and healthcare.

As @fencer put it, heroin.
Correct, my expectation is that many people will not use the money for its intended purpose. Stuff like that happens now with current programs to varying degrees, but with the bag, there will be no oversight at all. When the parents buy an iphone and a TV after they've secured the bag, the kids will starve. At least with SNAP there's restrictions on what you can buy. Is there fraud? Sure, but at least there's a token system in place.
 
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