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AN ACT requiring background checks for all firearm sales. NH HB1589
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As I told you at the rally, I will be there ( I took Tuesday off). I wasn't sure I would testify. Now I am certain. I'll try to see if my brother can come but he broke his arm a few days ago and is still in a bit of pain so I don't know if he would be able to make the car ride and time there if it goes to 5pm.
I'm gonna try and write a letter to the editor for seacoast online and Fosters as well as probably others.
HB1589 part of Nationwide introduction of GENERIC anti-gun laws copyrighted by LCAV
Anybody else notice that HB1589 is actually a generic bill, the "Model Law Requiring Background Checks on All Gun Purchasers"? This is a generic law authored by Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, part of their set of model gun laws in their nationwide anti-gun campaign.
I was reading the text of HB 1589 and noticed the repeated reference to compliance with local gun laws, and thought to myself "that's weird, New Hampshire has statewide preemption, why would a bill make reference to 'local' compliance when there are no local laws?" So I picked out a few choice phrases from the bill, and every one of them traced back to Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence (aka Legal Community Against Violence aka Firearms Law Center).
If you plan to comment on Tuesday, I suggest this is an important point to press home. HB 1589 isn't a law New Hampshire needs, does not reflect New Hampshire values, it's a generic west coast bill written by a group of anti-gun lawyers in San Francisco, funded by the Joyce Foundation and David Bohnett (among others).
Expect to see a small contigent of bill proponents from Granite State Progress on Tuesday.
Anybody else notice that HB1589 is actually a generic bill, the "Model Law Requiring Background Checks on All Gun Purchasers"? This is a generic law authored by Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, part of their set of model gun laws in their nationwide anti-gun campaign.
I was reading the text of HB 1589 and noticed the repeated reference to compliance with local gun laws, and thought to myself "that's weird, New Hampshire has statewide preemption, why would a bill make reference to 'local' compliance when there are no local laws?" So I picked out a few choice phrases from the bill, and every one of them traced back to Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence (aka Legal Community Against Violence aka Firearms Law Center).
If you plan to comment on Tuesday, I suggest this is an important point to press home. HB 1589 isn't a law New Hampshire needs, does not reflect New Hampshire values, it's a generic west coast bill written by a group of anti-gun lawyers in San Francisco, funded by the Joyce Foundation and David Bohnett (among others).
Expect to see a small contigent of bill proponents from Granite State Progress on Tuesday.
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So pretty much the same. In any case the original claim posted is essentially an outright lie in an attempt to justify this b.s. in NH.
NH is not a problem for MA. MA is cleary more an issue for itself despite it's much more restrictive laws.
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Yep. Here is the trace data for New Hampshire. Note that Massachusetts is the number 1 out of state location for firearms used in crime in NH. So it is also safe to say Mass Gun laws don't work in that regard either.
http://www.atf.gov/files/statistics/download/trace-data/2009/2009-trace-data-new-hampshire.pdf
Drafting a letter to the editor takes longer than one would think. Probably because I don't use emotion and use actual facts I need to research and not "fake" or "massaged" data and sentences from the Brady bunch.
Submitted a letter to Fosters Daily Democrat. We shall see where it goes.
I wanted to submit the letter below but all the papers have an extremely short limit on letters. Fosters was the most generous at 350 words. The union leader is a lowly 200 words.
The letter I wanted to submit is close to 500 words long and four paragraphs. I had to omit the 3rd paragraph in my submission to fosters to meet the word requirement. Meeting the 300, 250 and 200 word requirements of all the other papers (Portsmouth Herald, Concord Monitor, Union Leader respectively) is rather difficult. Nashua Telegraph allows a few word over their 250 word limit based on a small sampling of word counts on their published letters.
If you guys can find a way to craft my letter below to meet the above requirements for the a few other papers by all means post it and I will submit it. Rearranging it to work and still make sense is the hard part. It is late so I am going to get some sleep and will work on it some more in the morning (holiday's are nice).
It is too bad I can't get all this published. I feel it is well written and covers the major points well. And it should be. Took me several hours (including research) to edit this into what you see below.
I wanted to submit the letter below but all the papers have an extremely short limit on letters. Fosters was the most generous at 350 words. The union leader is a lowly 200 words.
The letter I wanted to submit is close to 500 words long and four paragraphs. I had to omit the 3rd paragraph in my submission to fosters to meet the word requirement. Meeting the 300, 250 and 200 word requirements of all the other papers (Portsmouth Herald, Concord Monitor, Union Leader respectively) is rather difficult. Nashua Telegraph allows a few word over their 250 word limit based on a small sampling of word counts on their published letters.
If you guys can find a way to craft my letter below to meet the above requirements for the a few other papers by all means post it and I will submit it. Rearranging it to work and still make sense is the hard part. It is late so I am going to get some sleep and will work on it some more in the morning (holiday's are nice).
It is too bad I can't get all this published. I feel it is well written and covers the major points well. And it should be. Took me several hours (including research) to edit this into what you see below.
So, it is a law crafted in San Fran, for use “whereever“, and being sprayed around the country in hopes that it might "stick" somewhere? You need to ID whoever brought this forward, and work to have them removed. Expose the lie for what it is.
Really? That old chestnut? Get some new material. When these laws pass, then I'll worry.
That's a very good point. Current law in Massachusetts is about as strict as this "model law" legislation, yet doesn't correct the problem the law says it is intended to address.
The primary sponsor is Representative E. Elaine Andrews-Ahearn, transplant from Gloucester, Massachusetts.
And if you really want to ruin your appetite, read the rest of the model legislation as published by by Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
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What you call liberal infestation we call freedom...which includes the freedom of moonbat legislators to file idiotic bills.
This one should die in committee, but if it does not, it will give us a great chance to prune back the NH legislators who will support it on the floor.
See you at the hearing, ladies and gentlemen.
Probably every session. Just like every other free state- there are always a few douchebags that bring them up. If you think you're going to be able to move away from statist authoritarian douchebag moonbats introducing shitty bills every session, I have a nice bridge to sell you.
-Mike
I saw the post above about Elaine Ahearn, but missed that she is the primary sponsor. Please try not to forget to record ALL sponsors of this steaming pile. People need to know, and be reminded! Thanks for your hard work on this.
DispositionMatrix
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I would get rid the exclamation point. Those are for personal correspondence. It is important to come across as dispassionate in the presentation of your material.
Within the first paragraph I would follow my rule of asking the following: What specific, statistically-relevant, verifiable problem is the author trying to solve with this bill?
I recommend pointing out that prohibitions have not and never will work. The prohibition of alcohol was a disaster in this country. Despite a federal prohibition on marijuana, at no time in recent history--even before some states started to relax their adherence to federal law--has it been impossible to acquire it in any state. The vast majority of crimes committed using firearms in the U.S. occur within one of our 36 or so urban centers where population density is greatest and involve illegally-possessed guns; metro-Boston is one of those centers. Where there is demand for illegally-possessed firearms, that demand will be met.
Dude, short of putting out a bounty on moonbat legislators, this shit is going to crop up from time to time.
My suggestion is to put out big "Hav-a-Heart" traps baited with The New York Times, the Huffington Post, and a Triple Venti Half-caf Soy No Foam Latte,and take the moonbats south of the border and release them back into their natural habitat, but so far, no one's taking me up on it.
Got it down further and more to the point. Submitted to the UL and their 200 word limit. I'm not sure I can get much more added in and keep it consistent for a 250 word limit. I think I'll submit the below to the other papers with a 250 word limit.
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I think I found where this Elaine Andrew-Ahearns is getting the text of her bills:
LINK to Alice Law
Here is the PDF from the LCAV for this bill, HB 1589. There are many parts of the "model law" that she took. She actually left out the exemptions for loaning a firearm at a range and increased the penalty to a felony (the model law has it as a misdemeanor).
http://www.alicelaw.org/uploads/ass...ersal_Background_Checks_for_Firearm_Sales.pdf
If you go to the hearing today, mention in your testimony that the sponsor, Elaine Andrew-Ahearns, is using San Francisco elitist lawyers to write bills for her.
We need to push this. People who may even agree with her (some) will be repulsed to know that San Francisco is trying to dictate New Hampshire law.
LINK to Alice Law
Here is the PDF from the LCAV for this bill, HB 1589. There are many parts of the "model law" that she took. She actually left out the exemptions for loaning a firearm at a range and increased the penalty to a felony (the model law has it as a misdemeanor).
http://www.alicelaw.org/uploads/ass...ersal_Background_Checks_for_Firearm_Sales.pdf
If you go to the hearing today, mention in your testimony that the sponsor, Elaine Andrew-Ahearns, is using San Francisco elitist lawyers to write bills for her.
We need to push this. People who may even agree with her (some) will be repulsed to know that San Francisco is trying to dictate New Hampshire law.
Wow, I totally missed that Elaine deleted the "loaning at a range" exception and increased the penalty. Pure evil, that woman is.
As I pointed out earlier, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence (LCPGV) is the new name for the Legal Community Against Violence (LCAV) which itself used to be called aka Firearms Law Center (FLC). It is common for anti-gun organizations to routinely change their names, almost like they're trying to dodge their old reputation for failure.
They rebranded their website also, to http://smartgunlaws.org/
The anti-gun crowd is resorting to bussing in folks from Sandy Hook to attempt to pass this bill. The anti-gun nazis are holding nothing back.
http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/gu...24029348/-/15aup7lz/-/index.html#mid=17979707
Please call these reps:
Hampshire. Including the committee Vice Chairman, Rep. Donna Schlachman (603)772-4934. The other sponsors are:
Rep. Elaine Andrews-Ahearn (603)772-7069
Rep. David Borden (603)436-4132
Rep. Rebecca Brown (603)823-8119
Rep. Laurie Harding (603)448-5206
Rep. Katherine Rogers (603)496-8521
Rep. Kenneth Ward (603)988-7580
Sen. David Pierce (603) 271-8631
You should also contact House Speaker Rep. Terie Norelli (603)436-2108 and House Minority Leader
Rep. Gene Chandler (603)374-6603 and let them know that you expect HB 1589 to be voted “inexpedient to legislate”.
- See more at: http://www.nhfc-ontarget.org/#sthash.LZSR6GN9.dpuf
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http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/gu...24029348/-/15aup7lz/-/index.html#mid=17979707
Please call these reps:
Hampshire. Including the committee Vice Chairman, Rep. Donna Schlachman (603)772-4934. The other sponsors are:
Rep. Elaine Andrews-Ahearn (603)772-7069
Rep. David Borden (603)436-4132
Rep. Rebecca Brown (603)823-8119
Rep. Laurie Harding (603)448-5206
Rep. Katherine Rogers (603)496-8521
Rep. Kenneth Ward (603)988-7580
Sen. David Pierce (603) 271-8631
You should also contact House Speaker Rep. Terie Norelli (603)436-2108 and House Minority Leader
Rep. Gene Chandler (603)374-6603 and let them know that you expect HB 1589 to be voted “inexpedient to legislate”.
- See more at: http://www.nhfc-ontarget.org/#sthash.LZSR6GN9.dpuf
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I don't really think a moonbat, or even 10 moonbats filing these bills in NH every session is indicative of some kind of trend. Similarly dumb bills have been getting filed in "pro gun" states for decades now. Every state has a handful of looney toons that make it into government. Every one.
-Mike
good post, thank you.
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