America is under attack.

[boatman]

Boatman I disagree,

All other political, teaching, scientific, moral, and philosophical systems acknowledged history as a foundation to learn and adapt from. They acknowledge man is flawed and try to be better through various systems of morality. The Frankfurt School is rooted in erasing history and human nature to build a new Utopian socialist state. All of the socialist and communist literature focuses on a clean break and erasure of the past including rewriting human nature. There is no morality, because man is to be perfect, his nature changed as to make morality unnecessary. There is a massive suspension of disbelief inherent in the system where it denies human nature. It claims to be humanist in easing suffering and unfairness, when it actually is the most inhuman system indifferent to the suffering of an individual possible.

All other systems acknowledge human nature by looking at history and trying to find solutions within a flawed existence. The enlightenment of the 17th and 18th centuries was the result of true intellectuals reevaluating the writings and history of antiquity in pursuit of improving the current state of civilization which they knew was flawed. They learn from mistakes and experiments. Socialism doesn't, it destroys and keeps destroying because it's impossible to destroy human nature. Any history written, even by socialists, is constantly revised and destroyed because knowing a history which demonstrates socialism doesn't work and that human nature can't be changed is antithetical to the exercise. Socialist societies can't learn from their mistakes because remembering failure is not allowed.

Sorry if I was not clear, I was not discussing socialism, I was responding to the line in the OP's statement, "America is under attack means our liberty, our freedom, our rights, are under attack. This time isn't like any before. This time they are all in".

I believe this statement could have been made anytime in the past 250 years regarding issues that were extremely divisive.

 

[SpaceCritter]

Sorry if I was not clear, I was not discussing socialism, I was responding to the line in the OP's statement, "America is under attack means our liberty, our freedom, our rights, are under attack. This time isn't like any before. This time they are all in".

I believe this statement could have been made anytime in the past 250 years regarding issues that were extremely divisive.

And if you are arguing we've "survived" these and can this one, I would argue actually we have not. The post-bellum aggregation of power at the Federal level, for example, set in motion events which would ultimately lead to Wilson and WWI, which had as its direct consequence WWII and the better part of the remainder of 20th century history, and by extension, ours now. Aggregation of power upwards has been the unrelenting theme the entire time, and remains so. While the march of technological progress has meant plenty-cheap-Chinese, could you imagine telling your youthful grandparents that not only could they not modify their own property without a host of very expensive permits, but there's a good chance they would be denied them? And if they could even imagine such a thing as television, that a show produced forty years ago that was regarded as "edgy" but well-received (and All in the Family is what I have in mind - a Norman Lear product, for f***'s sake) would be beyond the pale of anything that could be produced four decades later, as it might conflict with a top-down model of political correctness? Or that the "news" media will no longer refer to illegal aliens as "illegal aliens" ?? Or that we'd even be having these discussions about "gun control" ??

 

[Climbnsink]

Permits to do stuff to your own property are insane. I can't believe how people are OK with it. Owning property no longer makes you free. Owning property makes you the school board/Selectman's bitch. We've fallen really far.

 

[NHCraigT]

Permits to do stuff to your own property are insane. I can't believe how people are OK with it. Owning property no longer makes you free. Owning property makes you the school board/Selectman's bitch. We've fallen really far.

No one truly "owns" their home (paid-off, or not completely paid-off). Just try to stop paying property taxes and see how quickly what you think you "own" and have completely "paid-off" = gets taken away.

 

[JayZ0rbot]

Well, is it me or does today's media have that 1930's Nazi propaganda feel to it.
I've often wondered how the Jewish people of that time must have felt with all the negativity towards them.
Now I feel as a firearm owner and member of the NRA that it must have been overwhelming at how much hatred there is to a people that just wanted to live free.
All the false news and political propaganda just to raise up to a better, more powerful position in office.
The elitist VS the surfs of society and it's all about being able to control a people.
They say history repeats itself.
I just didn't think WWII was that long ago...

That machine is strong. Infiltrated our media, Hollywood and after 8years of Democratic Party DOJ and apparently FBI. All work the same scheme.

I’m astonished on how many people jump on the band wagon and can’t step aside and think for a minute. Or do some freaken research.

Unfortunately history does repeat itself.