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They are definetly becoming more prevolent. But I think it's more efficent housing. we live in almost air-tight houses, so young children are not exposed to the alergens at an early age.

I have no sience to back this up!

Go me!

Arrrr

-Weer'd Beard
 
Well, they say that allergies to things like peanuts are because the child was exposed to peanuts or peanut butter before the age of two.

For some reason, they say that two is the magic number when to give kids peaunt products. I don't know why.
 
C-pher said:
Well, they say that allergies to things like peanuts are because the child was exposed to peanuts or peanut butter before the age of two.

For some reason, they say that two is the magic number when to give kids peaunt products. I don't know why.

Who says? Where? I know of some kids that peanuts are the only protein they get.
 
There's been studies all over the place. And talking to our Pediatrician and my wife's OB/GYN.

But we have all these Baby and Parents magazines all over the place. And there are tons of articles in there about foods not to feed kids until a certain age because of issues that can come later in life.

I'll see if I can find some info on this...
 
I'd personally think it would sound better the other way around. As in them being able to already recognize the food because they have eaten it before. I'm sure I had eaten plenty of peanut butter before two or peanut butter captain crunch.

My close friend had grown up eating nothing but vegetables as a young child, now he loves them, eats nothing but. (bastard)

I think it has the same thing to do with things like pain tolerance. I grew up in a poor neighborhood where getting in trouble and getting hurt were daily things. Now I can take anything, yet the kids whose parents never let them leave the house, a paper cut is life threatening and they are allergic to everything.

( Have to cut short, boss is doing rounds)
 
I think it's a direct result of medical advances that save the lives of people that shouldn't be passing on genes that cause stuff like this. Am I the only one who thinks this?
Ive been a promoter of this view for some time and i TOTALLY agree with this outlook.
WE'VE COMPLETELY BYPASSED NATURAL SELECTION.
people whos genes would have otherwise been a genetic dead end are now allowed BY modern medicine to live full lives and in turn have children who continue to progenerate their defect into other family strains that otherwise didnt have it to begin with.
add to that our overuse of antibiotics..
[shock]
 
I found this right off the bat in several places...

Cow’s milk, soy, citrus and wheat should be avoided for
the first year of life, and eggs, peanuts and fish introduced
only after 2-3 years of age.

I guess that children will become to tollerate it after these times. But if they get a reaction before these ages, then they can possibly stay with them for the rest of thier lives.
 
Source on that quote?

Our 2 year old eats only eggs and peanut butter along with veggies and milk. No meat at all. The pediatrician is fine with that. He says she is healthy and growing, and not to worry unless something seems wrong.
 
There was actually a report on this not too long ago. There was a DR that was saying that it is a direct result with the cleaning industry pushing products that in effect sterilize our homes. Therefore our children are not subject to the normal beneficial dust/bacteria that SHOULD be there that helps to strengthen our immune systems.

It was on one of the news stations.

Adam
 
I did a Google Search for "Scholarly articles for peanuts in infants causing allergies"

It was listed in many of the articles in the results.

They all pretty much all said that the allergies are more prevalent in children before those ages, and as they get older, the chances decrease.


Like I said, I'm just reading all these articles. I'm not saying that it's every case. They say that the allergies are only in 6-8% of kids or so. I just didn't want to take the risk with my kid(s), so I just waited. It's not like they were missing anything if they didn't get something for the first couple of years. Or until our pediatrician said that we could start giving her milk, or whatever.

And that's great. My kid eats everything now as well. And I agree, if the doctor says that the wee one is healthy, then that's great. I believe that as long as the kid is eating, that's a good sign. My kid doesn't like Milk, but we give her slices of cheese all the time because that's how she get's her calcium.

The doctor said whatever works. I agree.
 
Man... I pity the boyfriend. Seeing your girlfriend have an allergic reaction to your kiss? Whoa. Can you say "therapy"? He's gonna have to live with that for the rest of his life...
 
Ed's allergic to peanuts as well - and he's mid 40's. If I eat something with peanuts in it, I can't kiss him right away unless I brush my teeth first. However, he can use peanut oil to cook with. It doesn't bother him - it's only the meat of the nut that affects him. I also have an ex sister-in-law that is REALLY allergic to peanuts - she can't even eat anything if it was mixed by a spoon/spatula/etc. that stirred another dish with peanuts in it. She carries an epi pen with her all the time.

I think that the "weatherproofed" house theory has merit too. Not only can't the outside stuff come in, but the inside stuff gets trapped (mold, mildew). Since we've gone so energy efficient, asthma has increased in kids dramatically. I'm not a doc, nor do I play one on TV, but it makes sense to me.
 
Posted by scragglepoint:

wait a minute, according the article
"Christina Desforges died in a Quebec hospital Wednesday after doctors were unable to treat her allergic reaction to the kiss the previous weekend."

the PREVIOUS weekend?
you don't die from anaphylactic shock in a couple of days.
this is something you die from in a couple of minutes, a couple of hour tops.
this is a very fast moving process, that's why people carry epi-pens so they (or someone with them) can give them that shots imediately while waiting for the ambulance to arrive, becuase waiting even a couple of minutes for the ambulance could be too late.

something doesn't smell right about this article.
is there a peanut defense league part of PETA or something?
 
C-pher said:
Lynne said:
You got a point there...unless she went in to a coma due to the shock and then held on for a few days. I don't know....

I was under the impression that they were talking after the autopsy.

Nope...

Christina Desforges died in a Quebec hospital Wednesday after doctors were unable to treat her allergic reaction to the kiss the previous weekend.

She died on Wednesday.
 
It's a bit confusing to talk about allergies like ragweed or pollen and peanuts in the same sentence. Environmental allergies will make you miserable, but they won't kill you. Allergies to peanuts and things like Latex, are far more serious, because they can kill you. Add shellfish to that list (sorry Weer'd).

To be more precise and more accurate, it's better to speak of allergies and anaphylaxis. I know that that terms are mixed, but it's incorrect.

Anaphylaxis can kill pretty quickly, but it can also kill a bit more slowly. I won't bore you with the details, but in later stages anaphylaxis causes changes to the permeability of the lungs, which in turn results in the inability of the lungs to exchange Oxygen for Carbon Dioxide. It's damned hard to treat. That could well be what happened to the young lady here.

As I said, I don't want to bore you with this. For those that want more information Google Anaphylactic Shock, and Shock Lung.

Gary
 
I went in to Anaphylactic Shock while training in the Marines in N.C. The great news is they were not sure what caused it. The better news was if the Corpsman would have left the base on time I would not have made it. I got my shot literally in the nick of time. I lost vision and all feeling in both my arms and legs.

So with that I have passed the gene to my son Cody. Hopefully he won't have the same reaction to what ever pollen it was that I did. It was pretty scary.
 
derek said:
I went in to Anaphylactic Shock while training in the Marines in N.C. The great news is they were not sure what caused it. The better news was if the Corpsman would have left the base on time I would not have made it. I got my shot literally in the nick of time. I lost vision and all feeling in both my arms and legs.

So with that I have passed the gene to my son Cody. Hopefully he won't have the same reaction to what ever pollen it was that I did. It was pretty scary.

Geez D, that is scary. No idea at all what it might have been? Ed passed out once and took a header off a 4 foot loading dock. He had eaten a piece of apple pie - what he didn't know what that it had powdered walnuts in it. Luckily it wasn't a bad reaction. He's damn lucky he didn't break his neck.
 
Maybe age 2 is one of those special ages, kinda like how at 18 that's the year your lungs get thier smoke-proofing, and then you can buy cigarettes! 8)

-Weer'd Beard
 
Lynne said:
Geez D, that is scary. No idea at all what it might have been? Ed passed out once and took a header off a 4 foot loading dock. He had eaten a piece of apple pie - what he didn't know what that it had powdered walnuts in it. Luckily it wasn't a bad reaction. He's damn lucky he didn't break his neck.

I saw two of the Navy's best allergy doctors and neither one could give me an answer as to what pollen was the cause. When I went through the allergy testing I was pretty much allergic to anything that was green. I think it may have been pollen in the grass that was absorbed in my skin with me doing situps in the grass.

It came on quick and I couldn't stop it. The good news is now that I know what the start of the shock feels like I can get to the hospital quicker. When it first happened I layed in the barracks for a while trying to figure out why my throat was closing. It also affects the oxygen to the brain so you don't think clearly either. My bunk mate finally called the platoon commander to take me to medical. I almost waited too long.
 
C-pher said:
Well, they say that allergies to things like peanuts are because the child was exposed to peanuts or peanut butter before the age of two.

Yeah, they say it, but, if it was the cause of the allergy, most of us would've died as kids, since it was normal to feed your 1-2 year old Peanut Butter sandwiches 20+ years ago.
 
Nickle said:
C-pher said:
Well, they say that allergies to things like peanuts are because the child was exposed to peanuts or peanut butter before the age of two.

Yeah, they say it, but, if it was the cause of the allergy, most of us would've died as kids, since it was normal to feed your 1-2 year old Peanut Butter sandwiches 20+ years ago.

Yea, that's why they say that it's like 6-8% of kids under that age. I just said that I would rather not take the risk. That's my choice as a parent. Hell, I'm the one that tells my wife to let her lick the outlet, she'll only do it once. But I don't want to be the Father that finds out my daughter was one of the 6-8%. Then she's living her life in fear because it would have been avoided if I just waited two years.

And I'm glad that Derek didn't wait too long. I don't mean to be sappy and all, but we wouldn't have this forum if he did.
 
Nickle said:
C-pher said:
Well, they say that allergies to things like peanuts are because the child was exposed to peanuts or peanut butter before the age of two.

Yeah, they say it, but, if it was the cause of the allergy, most of us would've died as kids, since it was normal to feed your 1-2 year old Peanut Butter sandwiches 20+ years ago.

Like I said, mine lives on PB and milk. This thread is the first I've heard about this even being a consideration. I asked my wife, and she said anything foodwise goes with the pediatrician, as long as the 2 year old is healthy and growing.
 
As an FYI - one thing that helps Ed when he feels the start of an attack coming on is to drink something carbonated - belive it or not. He also carries Primatine mist with him to help with the throat closing up. So far, he hasn't had to be taken to the hospital as yet. Luckily, whenever he takes a bite of something, he can tell within the first 10 seconds if it's got nuts. We always ask too, but sometimes something will sneak through.
 
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