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joeendris
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If they change the restrictions will they issue a new card?
WallHack
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A. That's bull.
B. What does it say about them that they "made a mistake" and didn't catch it for 3 years?
C. What does it say about them that they realize their mistake hurt no one, so they decided to rectify it 3 years later?
Scumbag PD
B. What does it say about them that they "made a mistake" and didn't catch it for 3 years?
C. What does it say about them that they realize their mistake hurt no one, so they decided to rectify it 3 years later?
Scumbag PD
Can someone more knowledgeable of MA laws then me post the laws relating to LTC's and their issuance? I'm curious to see if they can arbitrarily restrict one AFTER approval and issuance just for the hell of it. That philosophy of ignoring due process AND restricting what is suppose to be a right doesn't seem like it follow suit with...scratch that thought. MA rarely bothers to structure legislation in a lawful manner anyways...
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Can someone more knowledgeable of MA laws then me post the laws relating to LTC's and their issuance? I'm curious to see if they can arbitrarily restrict one AFTER approval and issuance just for the hell of it. That philosophy of ignoring due process AND restricting what is suppose to be a right doesn't seem like it follow suit with...scratch that thought. MA rarely bothers to structure legislation in a lawful manner anyways...
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Can someone more knowledgeable of MA laws then me post the laws relating to LTC's and their issuance? I'm curious to see if they can arbitrarily restrict one AFTER approval and issuance just for the hell of it. That philosophy of ignoring due process AND restricting what is suppose to be a right doesn't seem like it follow suit with...scratch that thought. MA rarely bothers to structure legislation in a lawful manner anyways...
Check here too. I don't know what sort of recourse you have. Comm2a and lawyer up before you do anything though.
GOAL's FID LTC Denial Page.
GOAL's FID LTC Denial Page.
I think this is what youre talking about
Section 131. All licenses to carry firearms shall be designated Class A or Class B, and the issuance and possession of any such license shall be subject to the following conditions and restrictions:
(a) A Class A license shall entitle a holder thereof to purchase, rent, lease, borrow, possess and carry: (i) firearms, including large capacity firearms, and feeding devices and ammunition therefor, for all lawful purposes, subject to such restrictions relative to the possession, use or carrying of firearms as the licensing authority deems proper; and (ii) rifles and shotguns, including large capacity weapons, and feeding devices and ammunition therefor, for all lawful purposes; provided, however, that the licensing authority may impose such restrictions relative to the possession, use or carrying of large capacity rifles and shotguns as it deems proper. A violation of a restriction imposed by the licensing authority under the provisions of this paragraph shall be cause for suspension or revocation and shall, unless otherwise provided, be punished by a fine of not less than $1,000 nor more than $10,000; provided, however, that the provisions of section 10 of chapter 269 shall not apply to such violation.
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section131
INAL but unless they send notice in writing I would ignore it. You have the LTC with no restrictions in hand. Photo copy your LTC several times for your records so they don't just look at it and walk away with it leaving you without proof. Keep at least one copy somewhere other than your house.
^^^^^ This!! And MGL backs this up.
ONLY solution is move out of MA!
This too. And they don't need a reason.
Read and heed! This is the way it is in MA.
Untrue x2. Yes scumbag PD demanded that to remove restrictions the person pay again and go thru the whole 3-6 month wait for a new LTC (w/o a LTC for that time), but that is NOT required. It's a simple change on MIRCS and generates a new LTC with same dates from FRB and it is FREE per MGL, CMRs and FRB policy.
Absolutely! Nothing to lose and you might gain here.
Yes!
Yes, see above.
I can verify the reissue part. My brother got his restrictions removed. A week after he talked to the Chief, his new license arrived. No forms, no cost.
Sorry, dude, that sucks. They shouldn't be able to add restrictions without cause, especially after that amount of time. But It doesn't surprise me that they can.
Sorry, dude, that sucks. They shouldn't be able to add restrictions without cause, especially after that amount of time. But It doesn't surprise me that they can.
TOM1960
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Exactly the same reasons why I stayed with the "shall issue" FID for over 34 years. Alabama is happening in a few years. Cannot wait to leave this socialistic workers' paradise!
MALDENQB02
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Thanks everyone for all your Input and support. Im going to start putting letters together. Ill await input from comm2A before taking any actions.
Consult legal help...translation sue
Mesatchornug
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That sucks!
I thought someone posted not that long ago that our chief now considers dropping restrictions after a year, with evidence of practice/training, if you don't get into trouble in that time.
Can you try to talk to the chief directly for clarification?
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I thought someone posted not that long ago that our chief now considers dropping restrictions after a year, with evidence of practice/training, if you don't get into trouble in that time.
Can you try to talk to the chief directly for clarification?
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absolutly pissed!
So what are the chances that someone sued them over their policy - claiming that they issue unrestricted when they feel like it - and now they're trying to clean up their books?
So what are the chances that someone sued them over their policy - claiming that they issue unrestricted when they feel like it - and now they're trying to clean up their books?
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I've heard the term that laws have, "teeth," or consequences; if you break the law you are punished. Unfortunately we citizens have no teeth in MA against these laws.
Edit. My wife just offered a solution: "Just say, "No.""
Edit. My wife just offered a solution: "Just say, "No.""
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You've convinced me to never answer my phone.
Not likely, most likely a restricted Sport and Target LTC A.
I would contact Allied or Mayflower and get the **** out of that piece of shit state ASAP, The amount of money you will spend on a lawyer would be a nice deposit on a house elsewhere, like the free state of CT or NY, Wait, what, the Constitution state isn't Constitutional anymore??!! How about go south my friend and never look back!
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Dog ate it? Tell them to pick it out of a steamy pile of sh!t!![[angry]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/008.gif "Angry [angry]")
^Fu@@ ya THIS
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I personally, and this in now way should tell YOU what to do, would just keep the unrestricted license. Its in date, and unless they came and took it from me disregard the phone call until and unless It was revoked or expired before letting them make me renew early for a restriction.
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