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That's pretty cool...
Its all fun and games till you commit a felony... From NFA'34...
Muffler or silencer. Any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for the use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.
If the ATF can say a soda bottle is a silencer..
Just be careful!
--EasyD
Its all fun and games till you commit a felony... From NFA'34...
Muffler or silencer. Any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for the use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.
If the ATF can say a soda bottle is a silencer..
Just be careful!
--EasyD
then by that definition, shooting indoors at a range with insulated walls would be against the law.
From the thread.
By the way, in case anyone is wondering waht the ATF thinks- it's not a suppressor unless it's attached to the gun. I had range "experts" who saw it and would "warn" me in hushed voices about it, but they were, um, misinformd.
I'd tend to agree with that... because otherwise you'd have a lot of
things (even buildings) which were deemed "supressors". A lot of bullet
traps one sees would also be supressors. (I'd imagine it's still loud, but a
gun going off into a trap is probably quieter than it is in open air). I think
the ATF really only gives a shit if it's attached to the firearm, or designed to
be attached to it.
Ironically this "suppression" issue is a weird one... when ATF stamps
something a suppressor it is very subjective. There are gun attachments
which suppress sound which don't always get labeled as a supressor; but as
a barrel extension, flash hider, etc, but these often DO reduce the
amount of sound that comes out of the thing, even if it's not to an extreme
degree.
It all depends on how much tinfoil one has regarding BATFE's willingness to
rewrite the rules for their own agendas. Such fears are not entirely
unwarranted- because federal gun law is so shoddily and poorly written
with regards to certain topics that it gives BATFE way too much latitude
in making it's own definitions. Most of the time this expansionism doesn't
fly in a court of law (eg, if challenged, most jurors would not believe that a
shoestring is a machine gun) but that doesn't stop BATFE from being
absurd with regards to their enforcement. (even if the victim wins in
federal court, doesn't stop BATFE from destroying someone's life in the
process. )
-Mike
DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
WASHINGTON, DC 20226
AUG 23 1999
901040:GS
5320/99-0115
Dear Mr. Bardwell:
This is in response to your letter of June 28, 1999, regarding the
repair of a silencer by an individual owner. You ask "whether it
is lawful for the owner of a lawfully possessed silencer ... to
repair that silencer himself, by replacing unserialized internal
components with new components of his own making." You cited the
replacement of a worn out plastic "wipe" or damaged baffle as an
example.
As you are aware, the terms "firearm silencer" and "firearm
muffler" mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing
the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of
parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling
or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part
intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication. Thus,
certain internal components, intended only for use in a silencer,
are silencers as defined.
If an individual made one of these parts, even for use as a
replacement part, the individual would be making a silencer. Under
the provisions of the National Firearms Act, any person must apply
for and receive permission to make a silencer and pay the making
tax for each silencer made. This would require the individual
owner to file an ATF Form 1 application for each silencer part to
be made with the payment of $200.00 for each application prior to
making any replacement part.
In regard to the two parts in your cited example, we consider a
baffle to be a silencer, but a wipe, which is usually nothing more
than a rubber or plastic disc with a hole in it, is generally not
considered to be a silencer. Thus an individual owner could
replace a wipe.
(M30) Are Paintball and/or Airgun Sound Suppressers NFA firearms? [Back]
The terms "firearm silencer" and "firearm muffler" mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.
Numerous paintball and airgun silencers tested by ATF’s Firearms Technology Branch have been determined to be, by nature of their design and function, firearm silencers. Because silencers are NFA weapons, an individual wishing to manufacture or transfer such a silencer must receive prior approval from ATF and pay the required tax. See Questions M15 and 16 for application details.
If the ATF can say a soda bottle is a silencer..
Too bad I'm a scaredy cat when it comes with messing with the laws haha.