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Legally, "obtain" covers both the common usage above as well as "come into / enter into / gain / take" possession, as well as "possess".Also, what is the legal definition of “obtained”?
In common usage it means to acquire, but not from creating, making, or manufacturing. Nobody says “I obtained this pancake” when they made it.
They'd have to prove that you built it more that 7-10 days (I don't remember what the law says) ago but not more that six years ago, that you didn't file an eFA10 (I'd love to see the state try to make sense of the nonsensical database)... And even then the first offense is just a fine. I would guess that a good lawyer would get you off the hook for this nonsense.
While you can put FA80 as the model, that's not necessary or correct.
The maker is you. What you bought from FA is a block of plastic. At least legally speaking. You turned it into a firearm .
The beauty of this is that you can make the model something like a "F&^k Maura 19" just for fun. And you get to type that into the eFA10 portal.
Yup, go home, EFA-10 it and you're good.
One could argue...why would you ever EFA 10 a home built firearm with no serial number? Defeats the purpose of building your own. And my understanding of the EFA10 process is to record the buyer / seller transaction. If there is no buyer / seller what exactly are you recording, your ownership and if yes, why?
Yes, you're supposed to EF10 it to the Commonwealth and Yes, the only reason is to record your ownership.why would you ever EFA 10 a home built firearm with no serial number? Defeats the purpose of building your own. And my understanding of the EFA10 process is to record the buyer / seller transaction. If there is no buyer / seller what exactly are you recording, your ownership and if yes, why?
for example, a hunting rig where you may well run into an EPO in the field.why would you ever EFA 10 a home built firearm with no serial number? Defeats the purpose of building your own. And my understanding of the EFA10 process is to record the buyer / seller transaction. If there is no buyer / seller what exactly are you recording, your ownership and if yes, why?
I'm anxiously waiting for his reply in 2022.Ps: if you post one more time, you will have exactly one post per year. You can do it.
why would you ever EFA 10 a home built firearm with no serial number? Defeats the purpose of building your own. And my understanding of the EFA10 process is to record the buyer / seller transaction. If there is no buyer / seller what exactly are you recording, your ownership and if yes, why?
What guns... I have none of these things you speak ofYou may have guns that you want to keep hidden. Then there are guns you may want to use with minimal risk. If your intended use for the gun is to bring it to the range or competition, then you are better off registering it.
If you want a gun to stay off the radar, you are actually better off being 100% legal and just accumulating all the parts but never assembling it. Then it can be turned into a functional firearm within an hour, but you are legally clean in not having eFA10'd it.
but at what point when you have all the parts, even if it is an 80% lower that has not been machined or a P80 that can be finished with so little effort a 5 year old can do it, can you get jacked up on a constructive possession charge?If you want a gun to stay off the radar, you are actually better off being 100% legal and just accumulating all the parts but never assembling it. Then it can be turned into a functional firearm within an hour, but you are legally clean in not having eFA10'd it.
but at what point when you have all the parts, even if it is an 80% lower that has not been machined or a P80 that can be finished with so little effort a 5 year old can do it, can you get jacked up on a constructive possession charge?
You may be found not guilty, but you are going to go broke in legal fees and expenses in the process.
Any issues after you register your p80? I have a couple of builds but don't want to get in trouble if I register.I efa-10'd mine. Didn't even call it a Glock, since technically the frame is a p80 (which is what I called it), no black helicopters yet.
Why would there be? It is not illegal to build your own, and there is no law stating that a home built firearm must posses a serial #. I've also built several rifle platforms, same thing.Any issues after you register your p80? I have a couple of builds but don't want to get in trouble if I register.
With everyone's smart phone serving as a calculator with fully formed fonts, a lot of the fun is gone.8008135 because I never grew up