I am asking for a coworker who recently got his gun license. Is it legal to purchase an 80% lower and machine it and build it yourself or have the laws changed he is receiving conflicting answers and that’s all I appear to be finding online?
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He is actually just trying to own an AR15 in MA. He was to young before she pulled her bs.What are you really trying to do?
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Just stick with the advice from the professionals. If your dad’s friend is ATF, then by Jupiter, who are you to question him?
The laws have not changed.I am asking for a coworker who recently got his gun license. Is it legal to purchase an 80% lower and machine it and build it yourself or have the laws changed he is receiving conflicting answers and that’s all I appear to be finding online?
Best to listen to ATF dad. Otherwise they'll show up at your house and burn it down.I’m his co worker it wasn’t letting me post my buddy’s dad is ATF and is trying to tel me I can’t?
I dont live in mass and am not a lawyer but didnt her majesty rule no new evil killy black/scary rifles after some arbitrary date that has already passed?
If you lived in a state without such a ban it would be perfectly legal......
Not sure that Mr ATF would be authoritative on mAss law......Fed law does not prohibit any such thing
Hi MauraI am asking for a coworker who recently got his gun license. Is it legal to purchase an 80% lower and machine it and build it yourself or have the laws changed he is receiving conflicting answers and that’s all I appear to be finding online?
Perso to person or pre94 from a dealerHe is actually just trying to own an AR15 in MA. He was to young before she pulled her bs.
cExactly this.
Federal law says that people can complete 80% lowers for their own use.
State laws vary.
Massachusetts has law, and then Massachusetts has statements made by the Attorney General which appear to be establishing new "guidelines".
As a spectator only, I'm not at all sure of the legality of her position; but it's certainly not my a$$ on the line.
Go read up on "pre-bans" and on "07/20", and then make your own best informed decision.
Do NOT trust some random guy from the internet; it's your life, not his.
U can make as many 80%’s as u wantI think it’s not allowed in MA. But I honestly don’t know. I want an AR but didn’t get my license til ‘17. Just accepted the fact that I’m SOL unless I wanna fork over $1500. I suppose you could just build the rifle and keep it hush hush. It’s not like her edict is legal (not sure if the Boys will accept that reasoning if they find it though)
I think it’s not allowed in MA. But I honestly don’t know. I want an AR but didn’t get my license til ‘17. Just accepted the fact that I’m SOL unless I wanna fork over $1500. I suppose you could just build the rifle and keep it hush hush. It’s not like her edict is legal (not sure if the Boys will accept that reasoning if they find it though)
... That said the penalty for the first failure to file an FA10 is a fine, no jail time.
Yep. There is no born on date that magically appears on new rifles either. Just STFU and lawyer up if you have a problem.The law allows you to build an AR. The AG's interpretation of the law does not. Proceed with caution.
What's the cite for this fine? Isn't that with regard to failing to record a transfer?
Section 128B. Any resident of the commonwealth who purchases or obtains a firearm, rifle or shotgun or machine gun from any source within or without the commonwealth, other than from a licensee under section one hundred and twenty-two or a person authorized to sell firearms under section one hundred and twenty-eight A, and any nonresident of the commonwealth who purchases or obtains a firearm, rifle, shotgun or machine gun from any source within or without the commonwealth, other than such a licensee or person, and receives such firearm, rifle, shotgun or machine gun, within the commonwealth shall within seven days after receiving such firearm, rifle, shotgun or machine gun, report, in writing, to the commissioner of the department of criminal justice information services the name and address of the seller or donor and the buyer or donee, together with a complete description of the firearm, rifle, shotgun or machine gun, including the caliber, make and serial number. Whoever violates any provision of this section shall for the first offense be punished by a fine of not less than $500 nor more than $1,000 and for any subsequent offense by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than ten years.
Good question that no one knows the answer to. You could argue that an SBR does not meet the legal definition of a "rifle" at all under MA law. Chances are it'll cost you a LOT to argue that since it will be in court.Here’s a thought:
Say you have an 80% lower, and you send in a request to the ATF to SBR it. Let’s say the ATF approves this (not sure if they would or not, I’ve heard conflicting reports). Can you now, legally, build the SBR according to the law in MA? Seeing as it is now an NFA item, and has a barrel shorter than 16”, it would no longer fit MA classification as an “assault rifle”, no?
She has decreed that even OWNING one is illegal, even if bought prior to her decree and after '94. Build it now, own it now. Still the same felon in waiting.Heres something Ive been wondering about. (I am not SUGGESTING or encouraging this, merely asking about the legal ramifications of the scenario)
So from what ive heard if you posessed an 80% lower before the enforcement notice, it was legal to complete (and register?) it after the notice similiair to how it works with stripped lowers.
Scenario: an unmarked 80% lower, completed and kept in the home, perhaps even post-healey (Hi Maura!) for personal use only (not pinned 10 round). Some fanatical anti-2A LEO shows up and books you for posession of an AW or a "copycat weapon" post Healeys decree. You claim it was completed before the decree. Therefore the burden of proof would be on THEM to prove it was completed after the Healey notice wouldnt it?
Scenario 2: same as above, except you claim you possessed the 80% lower BEFORE the enforcement notice but COMPLETED it after, as allowed by lord Maura.
Scenario 3: Not really a scenario, just wondering how registration would effect the scenarios above.