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7 killed , 3 hurt in motorcycle-truck accident in Randolph NH

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by calsdad, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. wilson911

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    Why are they so gung ho to deport? This shouldn't even be considered until served his 300 year term.

    It's just curious to me that his status wasnt swept under the rug and that they want to mark him for deportation (but why not the thousands in the court system for misdemeanors).
     

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    First time I went on a group ride, I was made sweep due to hiviz jacket.

    Seeing brake lights in turns where there shouldn’t be brake lights demonstrated that maybe one third of the riders were over their heads. Despite the fact the group leader reiterated at least three times “Ride your own ride: we’ll wait for you as necessary.”
     
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    I dropped a dime to Grace, who hadn't heard yet...
     
  4. jhblaze1

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    absolutely. I went Keto last may. pre-diabetic. Lost 60lbs in like 3 months and my fasting blood sugar went from high 120s to like 85, cholesterol down, and triglycerides down. I did it by eating tons of steak, bacon, eggs, cheese, butter and good oils.
     
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    But that is exactly what you said.

     
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    Good.

    I was thinking that terms like “stay in your phucking lane!!” or “no exceptions” meant you were being absolute about it. I wonder why.
     
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  7. Pete85

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    Maybe they're planning that once he's convicted they fly him back to his home country and kick him out of the plane at 35,000 feet?
     
  8. wilson911

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    Looks like the fallout has its first victim.....head of MA RMV just resigned because of this. Screw resigning....I'd love to see real accountability.

    Pasting this below because the herald is behind a paywall

    Here is the full statement:

    Massachusetts Department of Transportation (MassDOT) Secretary and CEO Stephanie Pollack issued the following statement regarding the driving history and license status
    “The loss of life in any motor vehicle crash is a terrible tragedy and the massive toll this crash is taking on the families of the seven individuals who lost their lives, many of whom served this country, is impossible to comprehend. The Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles has a responsibility to enforce the laws governing safe operation of vehicles and carries out its mission to the best of its abilities. But in this case, the RMV had not acted on information provided by the Connecticut Department of Motor Vehicles about a May 11 incident that should have triggered termination of this individual’s commercial driver’s license. Effective immediately, former MassDOT Chief Operating Officer Jamey Tesler will take over as Acting Registrar of the RMV as I have accepted Registrar Erin Deveney’s resignation. Jamey will lead an in depth review of the Registry’s state-to-state data sharing processes to ensure the RMV acts as quickly as possible on any information shared by other states.”
     
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    I read the article on the Herald app- Mass RMV put a lot of blame on CT RMV failing to provide the proper information in the proper format to trigger automatic suspension. But they also admit they had enough info to start a manual review of his driving status and hadn't started it.
     
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    Normally, I'd love anything that causes a public official to resign in disgrace. But this is too much. Regardless of who didnt get the license pulled, I feel its criminal and they have blood on their hands.
     
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    Tip of the iceberg:
    RMV head resigns over N.H. motorcycle crash revelations - The Boston Globe
    In order to prevent accidents like this we need to clean up our immigration process first.

    If they have found drugs on him he has to be deported.
    #1 Guide to Deportable Offenses [2019] (Crimes, DUI & Immigration)
    We do not need another individual sitting in our jail while studying to become a lawyer one day. This would be your money spent stupidly!
     
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    An immigration detainer just means that no matter what else happens, he gets deported as soon as he's out of jail or prison.

    Should something bizarre happen and he walks on the charges: back to Ukraine he goes. If he is convicted and sentence from anything to time served to 300 years, that detainer will be waiting as soon as he leaves in anything other than a box.
     
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    You're both incorrect. The Constitution and BoR don't give anyone rights. You have rights, not because you're an American citizen or resident, but because you're a human being.

    None of us have "Constitutional rights". The Constitution is a limitation on what government can do, not a list of what the people may do.
     
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    IF he is guilty, he should rot in jail. In gen pop. The skinners and rippers will eat him up if the 1% lets him live.

    A free trip back to Europe and living free after killing 7 is not a good deterrent for criminal immigrants or other non citizens.

    When the refugees rape, they get deported and come back to rape and or kill again.

    Although, prison with free healthcare is a bonus for refugees.
     
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    Exactly why things like this:

    Warren joins calls to get rid of ICE

    Are so goddamned stupid.........
     
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    Truck driver accused of killing 7 bikers was immigrant who should have been deported
    Zhukovskyy is not an illegal alien, but is a citizen of Ukraine who resides here on a green card and has been living here with his family for 13 years. However, a green card does not entitle anyone to an affirmative right to remain in this country. It’s a probationary period for them to demonstrate “good moral character” (INA 316(e)). While there are, unfortunately, many Americans who have DUI and drug charges, it should go without saying that immigrants – legal or otherwise – should not be allowed to remain here without good moral character.

    Obviously, when it comes to illegal aliens, it makes sense that any illegal arrested for any crime should be deported since they must be deported even if they did not commit any crimes. While we might not want a threshold of deporting legal immigrants for any misdemeanor, there is no reason someone with multiple misdemeanors that includes dangerous driving offenses should be allowed to remain in the country. What is clear is that ICE should have access to all records of foreign nationals and they should be aware of multiple criminal offenses, especially in this case, when there were numerous cross-state arrests that would each individually be viewed as low level within the respective states, but taken together, pain the picture of someone who should be deported.

    It’s clear from the fact that ICE is only now requesting information on the 2017 drug conviction that it had no idea of his status at the time.

    The 2015 larceny conviction should have made him deportable right away and ICE should have been notified. Theft is included in a crime of moral turpitude making legal immigrants deportable under 8 U.S.C. 1227(a)(2)(A). Then again, in 2017, Zhukovskyy should have been deportable because drug possession (except for certain marijuana offenses) make an alien deportable under 8 U.S.C. 1227(a)(2)(B).

    The fact that someone like this could have continued to rack up driving offenses for this long without his past history ever being conveyed to the right authorities demonstrates how the weakness in enforcing current law leads to so many avoidable murders. All deaths at the hands of foreign nationals whom we could have deported are, by definition, avoidable. This is one of the most redressible problems from a public policy standpoint because no foreign criminals should ever cycle in and out of the criminal justice system for years without being removed.

    What’s worse is that sanctuary states like Massachusetts work to hide criminal records from ICE to ensure that they can’t weed out the criminal elements among the many good immigrants in this country. Jessica Vaughan of Center for Immigration Studies, who lived in Massachusetts for many years, told CR that Massachusetts laws are “inadequate to protect the public.”

    “It is evident that the commonwealth of Massachusetts is failing to manage the issuance of regular and commercial driver’s licenses to prevent unqualified, unsafe drivers from obtaining these credentials, and yet at the same time, the Legislature wants to add to the problem by allowing illegal aliens to receive driver’s licenses. This will make the problem worse because the Registry of Motor Vehicles will have no way to authenticate their identity, meaning that they will have no clue about their past driving history or suitability for a license. Clearly, the state needs to be more restrictive in screening for licenses, not less.”

    Then there is the issue of undermining federal immigration officers. According to Vaughan, the bill before the state Senate “would not only discourage sharing of information between local and federal authorities about non-citizens who are a danger to the public, but it would protect them from contact with ICE and even mandate their release while charges are pending, even if ICE is seeking to deport them.”

    So rather than preventing situations like this, the bill would also “require the release of an illegal alien who is charged with an atrocity like this – guaranteeing that they remain free in the country and likely free from consequences for their actions.”

    Current law could have worked to save the lives of these seven individuals based on the larceny and drug charges. But Congress should go a step further and make two DUIs grounds for deporting legal immigrants. We see so often that manslaughter or homicide is born out of refusal to enforce current law, especially when deportable offenses were suggestive of the ultimate offenses that proved fatal.

    In this case, Zhukovskyy should have been deported anyway, but Congress needs to ensure that repeat DUI offenders are deported and that DUI arrests of aliens are sent to ICE.

    At Tuesday’s arraignment where Zhukovskyy was charged with seven negligent homicides, Judge Peter H. Bornstein said his “criminal and driving history exhibit a pattern of operating a motor vehicle in a dangerous manner. If released, he will likely present a danger to the safety of defendant or the public.”

    The big question is why was this history enough to allow him to remain in the country for the past four years? Moreover, the suspect’s father told the Boston Herald that his son “recently” obtained a green card. If that is in fact true, then it would mean that U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) adjusted his status, even though he had such a robust criminal record.
     
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    If you live in MA you are living in a state which protects criminals and makes you a vulnerable defenseless victim. Our protected criminals kill people in other states and make MA a home base for their criminal activities.

    This POS was working for an enterprise which was allowed to operate here.

    Individuals who have decided to use this opportunity to throw trash on Our Marines and our military are despicable characters who have no idea what was going on in this country in the last decade and how vulnerable we are now. They do not understand that ignorance and neglect create the best environment for criminals and their fake enterprises.

    This case deserves our attention and it needs to be fully investigated. We shall not allow it to suddenly evaporate.

    Mass. trucking company in deadly N.H. crash had troubling history of driver violations - The Boston Globe
    During his arrest, Zhukovskyy made “suicidal comments” and displayed “extreme behavior,” police said. Based on his performance during a field sobriety test, Zhukovskyy was arrested for allegedly operating a motor vehicle under the influence of drugs or alcohol, records show. His lawyer in that case has said Zhukovskyy denied the charge.

    He refused a chemical test, Massachusetts officials said, which should have resulted in the termination of his commercial license. But Connecticut “failed to provide sufficient information” about the arrest through the federal system for Massachusetts to record the violation, Pollack said.

    Zhukovskyy told police in Baytown, Texas, that he had overcorrected after trying to maneuver around a car that had cut him off. Police could not locate the vehicle Zhukovskyy said cut him off, said Baytown police Lieutenant Steve Dorris. The truck was carrying five cars at the time.

    Zhukovskyy was uninjured in the June 3 crash and was not cited by police, Dorris said. The truck he was driving was owned by a Westfield, Mass., company called FBI Express Inc., Dorris said. Zhukovskyy did not appear to be under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the time, Dorris said.

    The incident was first reported by WCVB-TV. In February, Zhukovskyy was arrested at a Denny’s restaurant in Baytown along Interstate 10, near the spot of his rollover. Police were called to the restaurant around 2 a.m. after Zhukovskyy showed strange behavior while seated at the counter, Dorris said.

    “He was talking to himself, like he was talking to someone next to him, but no one was there,” Dorris said.

    Zhukovskyy was unsteady on his feet and his pupils were dilated. Officers said it was “pretty clear he was intoxicated,” Dorris said. They found that Zhukovskyy was carrying a crack pipe when they patted him down, Dorris said. He was charged with possession of drug paraphernalia.
     
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    Driver in NH crash that killed 7 involved in Texas rollover just weeks ago, 5 Investigates says

    Interesting part in my mind:

    "5 Investigates spoke with the owner of the trucking company that Zhukovskyy was driving for at the time of the Texas incidents, FBI Express Inc., in West Springfield.

    The owner said that Zhukovskyy was fired after crashing the truck hauler this month and that he was not aware of February's drug arrest."

    He just rolled over a similar truck in Texas 3 weeks ago driving for a mover in West Springfield only to be hired soon after by another mover in West Springfield.
     
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    They likely cut him some slack as you know....he had turned his life around.......
     
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    Just amazing. The whole system failed these 7 guys.
    How this piece of shit was still in this country should wake many people up but sadly it will remain as it is.
     
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    Wow, it keeps getting worse and worse
     
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    yep...it'll be called an "isolated incident". Move on people....nothing more to see here folks.
     
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    My last CDL medical was a freaking joke over marginal high blood pressure yet this f***ing piece of shit foreigner gets a pass on OUI's and flipping rigs over. Turtle Boy made mention of his faceplant postings of driving up to 100MPH and multiple drinking posts. While these actions are not valid reasons to pull or deport this scumbag it clearly shows his true character.
     
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    Our system is designed for a failure. Our representatives, including Crying Baker, require special treatment for themselves and their relatives and friends but they do silly non-sense when it comes to our safety. They force us to get "bullet proof licenses" which are immediately copied by drug pushers and used against us, we have so many rules which apply only to law abiding citizens who are being killed or robbed by non-citizens who are allowed to conduct their operations not only in our state but also in the entire USA. They do not care about becoming Americans.

    This has to stop!
     
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    FBI Express Inc - West Springfield, MA
    They are thieves and used your vehicles when you hand then for transport. they drove my car for 30 miles, had scratches on the car and smoked in the car.

    they are totally unreliable. never use them.
    Fbi Express Inc | Get Quotes for Transport

    We have been in this trucking business for 7 years. We treat our customers with respect. After we bid the load with the brokers/dealers, we deliver the cars 4-7 days after it has been picked up. We are the fastest growing company in New England. Insurance covers any damages during transportation. We listen and do what the customer wants, for example, if customer wants the car to be kept in storage, we will do that with a little bit of a fee ($10-$15) depending on the size of the vehicle. Our office is open from 9 AM to 5 PM Eastern time, so if a customer needs to reach us they can contact either the dispatchers or the drivers. We always try our best to make our customers happy and satisfied with the pickup and delivery without any problems. Thank you, Fathers Brothers International.....

    Review for Fbi Express Inc. By DR ABHISHEK
    Hello,
    I would like to bring this to your kind attention about the recent move by a moving company called FBI Express Inc.Office- West springfield, MA.

    I had my Mercedes Benz scheduled to be moved from Houston, Texas to Woburn, Mass. It was a door to door move. On the day of pick up, the driver’s colleague ( 18 year old russian kid with different names- mark, mike) at the truck called me and asked if I can drive and drip my car to their place instead of them coming over to pick my car. The reason: they have been drinking since evening and cannot pick up my car. As I had a flight to catch next morning to Mass, I had no choice but to drive 14 miles to drop my car.

    They were supposed to deliver my car within 3-5 days (max 7 days). However I never heard back from them till day 8. Then suddenly they were rushed and asked me if I have cash ready. He texted me and called me and asked multiple times if I have the cash ready. Not even willing to take cashier’s check that was initially agreed upon. If not, they will not deliver my car. When I finally got my car on day 8/9 evening, it was driven about 25-30 miles. When asked about this, I was told they just used it once in Houston. The person who dropped my car was sitting and smoking in my car (the Russian kid)!. This is ridiculous. The AC and Tape was on at full speed. I mean, they are supposed to take care of the car, not use them. when I told him that I will not be paying him the full price, as it was received late than expected and car was used, there was a dent in the car and I have been paying for my rental car to commute to work; he broke my car keys and threatened me to take my car back to warehouse and sell its parts! He called his driver and they were towing my car to their warehouse. He ran away with my car keys and I had to call 911. The cops came in and settled the situation.

    This is the worst ever mover I have encountered. They are totally unreliable. Never use them. I would like you to take action against these cheats, so they do not harass other people during their move. Thank you.
     
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    He should be prosecuted for the deaths and then deported based on his status. Pretty straight forward.

    I really don't care about drugs, OUIs or licensing since those things shouldn't exist in the first place. This guy killed 7 people. That's the crime at hand.

    As to the company he was working for, if the previous behaviors in stories posted are all true, the company owner and people involved with hiring him should also be eligible for manslaughter charges based on negligence in hiring someone with a history of crashes and high substance use, which would all lead a normal person to conclude this guy was a driving time bomb.
     
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    THIS^[bow][bow]

    I can't provide more info here because it would be deleted anyway, but this is only a tip of the iceberg. All my research comes from Russian social media accounts which were not purged yet.

    Driver in New Hampshire Crash Has a History of Driving Offenses
    The company for which Zhukovskyy was driving at the time of the crash, Westfield Transport Inc., also has a checkered past. MassLive reports that the company has faced various violations in the last two years, including instances on March 9 and March 12, 2018, where drivers were found to be in possession of a narcotic drug. Records also list several maintenance violations including defective brakes, drivers without commercial driver’s licenses, speeding, and failure to stay in a lane.

    “Our condolences to the families, our prayers are with the families,” Dartanyan Gasanov, owner of Westfield Transport, said to the Globe. “We’re fully cooperating with the agencies, we’ll fully give them everything we have.”

    Officials have not yet revealed whether drugs or alcohol may have been factors in the crash.
     
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    It won't stop.
    Because the moment you push back, you are a racist, sexist, xenophobe.....
     
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    My answer to them is this:
    Show me! Show me that I am racist, sexist and xenophobe when I present facts which were logged in our courts already.
    Show me your plan which will protect our citizens from being killed!

    You have showed me that you do not want me to defend myself.
    You have showed me that I am a potential felon just because I did not do anything illegal.
    You have told me that people who steal should be allowed to go because our jails are full.

    What else do you have to put my friends and my family in grave danger?
     

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