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7 killed , 3 hurt in motorcycle-truck accident in Randolph NH

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by calsdad, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. jpk

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    Whether or not "Some" of the bikes had not yet left the lot is irrelevent

    At least 5 of them had and were close enough together to be involved.

    I've lost two friends to bike accidents over the years and their choices were their choices wrt riding habits and helmets.......and not once have I criticized them even though it contributed to their deaths
     

  2. Picton

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    Condolences.

    But if you won’t criticize your own friends, why would you criticize seven strangers?
     
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  3. jpk

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    We KNOW at least 5 bikes went down or were hit by the truck.

    Please explain to us all how that could possibly happen without them being in relatively close proximity to one another?

    Particularly given the fact that the accident site is 500 feet from where they got onto rt 2........
     
  4. jpk

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    Pictin, as usual you have a problem with reading comprehension
     
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    Mods, please put this thread out of its misery
     
  6. Picton

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    You have my condolences all the same. If you choose to take that in your usual hateful and ungrateful way, that’s your business.
     
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  7. jpk

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    It doesnt matter whether a "Pack" had formed up or not

    At least 5 bikes were involved in the accident

    HOW can a mimimum of 5 bikes be involved in an accident a mere 500 feet from where they started if they were not in relatively close proximity to one another?

    Did the truck veer into the wrong lane and continue to drive in the left lane for a half mile or more?

    Did he intentionally try to run over marines on bikes because he's possibly a putin sympathizer from the ukraine?

    Its a shitty f***ing raw deal for everyone involved regardless of who's to blame and shit posting isnt going to bring anyone back.

    On the other hand, if the NH DOS and NTSB come back and say that A, B and C were contributing factors in how/why there were so many fatalities would YOU or anyone else consider for even a moment altering your driving/riding habits?

    Its a fair question, take a wag at answering it
     
  8. jpk

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    If you dont want to read it then dont click on it

    Simple problem
    Simple solution
     
  9. jpk

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    Dont you have some republicans to lump together into some shit post or a remedial global warming summer school class to prep for?
     
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    Actually nobody wants to keep reading what this thread has devolved into.
    I did want to read it before it turned into a sh*t show. It's no longer a discussion about the actual incident.
    The simple problem is the thread has strayed off topic and into personal attacks.
    The simple solution would be to stay on topic or end up having the thread locked.
     
  11. Picton

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    Alrighty.

    I guess that answers that.
     
  12. jpk

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    Its very much a discussion about what happened.

    Its just that a number of people dont want to consider the possibility that this is anything other than a simple accident/tragic loss of life and no possibility of take aways that could prevent it from happening again.
     
  13. grey

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    If you've said your piece and people still "dont want to consider..." what are you going to do? Beat everyone over the head with it for 100 more posts? I think we get you're stance. It's been considered. Ok? Looking forward to the thread staying open to cover the ongoing investigation
     
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  14. jpk

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    I made no such claim that the group was traveling at any speed.

    I reiterated reported info stating that they were on way to post 82 for the 7p raffle and that the accident occurred at 6:30p

    That fact WILL be included in any report from NH DoS and the NTSB

    At least 5 bikes were involved in the accident 500 feet from their starting point

    How does that happen if they were not in relatively close proximity to one another?

    It cant........


    The fact of the matter is that he still had a valid license because mass and possibly ct effed up and didnt do their job......and that there are something like 700+ others cases where they screwed up.

    With that said I'd venture to guess that there are few if any people on NES or elsewhere that would voluntarily stop driving without the state actually revoking their license

    You can would have/could have/should have for the next x number of months until NTSB/NH DoS release a report but that wont change what happened

    No one know yet whether the driver f***ed up, whether there was a mechanical failure or some other reason for it and you passing judgement isnt going to change what happened.......he deserves a fair trial and if you were in the same position I would defend your right to the same no matter what you did.

    Back to the question you refuse to answer.......if the NH DOS and NTSB come back and say that A, B and C were contributing factors in how/why there were so many fatalities would YOU or anyone else consider for even a moment altering your driving/riding habits?

    Its a fair question, take a wag at answering it
     
  15. jpk

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    You can shit post all you want but it doesnt change the facts of whats been reported to date or what anyone else has posted

    if the NH DOS and NTSB come back and say that A, B and C were contributing factors in how/why there were so many fatalities would YOU or anyone else consider for even a moment altering your driving/riding habits?

    Its a fair question, take a wag at answering it
     
  16. one-eyed Jack

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    Not the bikers. Jack.
     
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  17. jpk

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    As I've stated before I dont know who or what caused the accident

    News similarly hasnt attempted to attribute cause.

    If the driver was under the influence they would have arrested him on the spot but they didnt did they?

    Can you tell us all whether or not there was a mechanical failure, driver f*** up or some other external cause (cow/dog/kid) that would explain why the truck failed to stay in the right lane?

    While you're at it take a wag at the question you keep avoiding.....

    If the NH DOS and NTSB come back and say that A, B and C were contributing factors in how/why there were so many fatalities would YOU or anyone else consider for even a moment altering your driving/riding habits?
     
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    IBTB
     
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    What's IBTB? Jack.
     
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  20. jpk

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    ROFL....whether you like the verbage/grammar/sentence structure or not.....take a wag at the question you keep avoiding.....

    If the NH DOS and NTSB come back and say that A, B and C were contributing factors in how/why there were so many fatalities would YOU or anyone else consider for even a moment altering your driving/riding habits?
     
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    Uhhhh... yes, he did answer it... Like, he just did. Right above your post.
     
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    I think it's "In Before The BANNING"!
     
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  24. jpk

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    You may want to reread that
     
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    "Depends."

    Really, what did you think you were going to get? Your question has nothing to do with this accident and everything to do with individual posters' behavior.
     
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    Thats not an answer, its avoidance

    It has EVERYTHING to do with the accident

    NH DOS and NTSB wouldnt be performing an investigation to determine WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED if there was nothing to learn/no intent to prevent something like this from happening in the future.

    Like most people I am fond of taking my next breath and prefer to hit the easy button instead of getting hurt/killed or seeing anyone else hurt/killed for failing to learn

    Ultimately each of us make our own choices/decision.....so long as your choices dont harm me its your choice
     
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    ...or, "depends."

    Forget it. I'm no longer interested in this.
     
  29. jpk

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    "Depends" is a diaper not an answer

    You keep asserting that I claimed that the riders were speeding......prove it.....what was the post number.

    If you keep claiming I said something that I didnt, I'm going to keep calling you out to prove it.
     
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    They could have been going 35 mph while waiting for others to come from the starting point. Crackhead comes along and takes them out. JFC.
     
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