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Yes! I am likely moving to Vermont!

I was reading the laws of Vermont for firearms on the NRAILA webpage and found this:

"It is unlawful for a child under 16, without consent of his parent or guardian, to possess or control a handgun."

Does this mean my son (who is 16) can use my handguns or handguns I give him by himself legally? I know in all states the age to buy handguns are 18 at least.
 
At 16, he cannot buy one, due to Federal Law, but he may have one in his possession, with your consent, without supervision.

Back in the early 1990's, a local kid had an after school job as an armed guard. He went direct from school, and used to keep his handgun in school in his locker, with the knowledge and consent of the school administration.

Only in VT, and a few other states.

When you find a place and are sure, let me know. I can give you a bunch of local info.
 
Good to hear nice things about Vermont. I'm seriously considering moving there in 4 or 5 years when my kids are out of school.
 
Ericman said:
likely the marshfield area

Nice area. Halfway between St. Johnsbury and Montpieler on Route 2. Far
enough from each to discourage commuters (20 Miles each way roughly).
It's old Vt. cow country in that area, but changing due to the impact
the townies are having on the farmers with regard to taxes. I hope
you like snow. This is one of those places described as nine months of
winter with three months of poor sledding.

This picture is from a ridge overlooking Cabot Plains southwards towards
Marshfield. You can't see Marshfield but it's about 3-5 miles south. It
was taken July 4th, 2005, a few weeks into the poor sledding season.

vt_pic_133a.jpg



TBP
 
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bad news guys! I aint moving! Arrg! I wanted to go so bad! Alas, the cruel world wont let me! I was so close. Nothing like last minute changes for the bad.
 
At 16, he cannot buy one, due to Federal Law, but he may have one in his possession, with your consent, without supervision.

Back in the early 1990's, a local kid had an after school job as an armed guard. He went direct from school, and used to keep his handgun in school in his locker, with the knowledge and consent of the school administration.

Only in VT, and a few other states.

When you find a place and are sure, let me know. I can give you a bunch of local info.

That's why the crime rate is so high in VT. Those pesky bears get drunk, arm themselves and break into trailers to eat the food. Sounds like the perfect reason for gun control.
 
Anyone have any idea what I might expect in the Middlesex area? My job is forcing me there to work for a couple of weeks(at least) and I've never even set foot in the state before.
 
My wife's cousin moved about ten years a go to the Woodstock area of Vermont. He and his family loved it and when I visited him years ago I though the area and lifestyle was great. However, even back then he told me the taxes were high, even compared to the area of NJ he lived in previously.

Even with the tax situation, he would never leave the area.
 
Anyone carrying concealed in Vermont should be fairly careful, as they have "home rule" there and several of the towns (including Burlington) forbid the carrying of firearms there. You can be breaking the law randomly as you drive through the state.

Me, I'll never leave New Hampshire except as ashes in a box.
 
There is state pre-emption, all local ordinances are null and void. Only the discharge of firearms can be prohibited by municipalities (except in self-defense cases of course). Even before state pre-emption the courts struck down local ordinances against carrying, such as in 1903 in Rutland City (State v. Rosenthal, considered one of the most important cases since the state supreme court in it prohibited banning or requiring licenses to carry in that case, as Rutland City required permission from the police chief to carry at the time and it was struck down as un-constitutional) and during the 1990's there were a handful that were either struck down by courts or voluntarily removed from the books with threats of lawsuits when some cities attempted it again, including Rutland City again. In fact, in Rutland City right now (and possibly in other cities too) there is still an ordinance saying firearms cannot be possessed while in city parks, but it is an illegal ordinance and would be thrown out by a court if they ever attempt to enforce it. Some pertinent pre-emption laws:

TITLE 24
Municipal and County Government
PART II
Municipalities
CHAPTER 61. REGULATORY PROVISIONS; POLICE POWER OF MUNICIPALITIES
Subchapter XI. Miscellaneous Regulatory Powers
§ 2291. Enumeration of powers
For the purpose of promoting the public health, safety, welfare and convenience, a town, city or incorporated village shall have the following powers:
(1) To set off portions of public highways of the municipality for sidewalks and bicycle paths and to regulate their use.
(2) To provide for the removal of snow and ice from sidewalks by the owner, occupant or person having charge of abutting property.
(3) To provide for the location, protection, maintenance and removal of trees, plants and shrubs, and buildings or other structures on or above public highways, sidewalks, or other property of the municipality.
(4) To regulate the operation and use of vehicles of every kind including the power: to erect traffic signs and signals; to regulate the speed of vehicles subject to sections 1141 through 1147 of Title 23; to regulate or exclude the parking of all vehicles; and to provide for waiver of the right of appearance and arraignment in court by persons charged with parking violations by payment of specified fines within a stated period of time.
(5) To establish rules for pedestrian traffic on public highways and to establish crosswalks.
(6) To regulate the location, installation, maintenance, repair and removal of utility poles, wires and conduits, water pipes or mains, gas mains and sewers, upon, under or above public highways or public property of the municipality.
(7) To regulate or prohibit the erection, size, structure, contents and location of signs, posters or displays on or above any public highway, sidewalk, lane or alleyway of the municipality and to regulate the use, size, structure, contents and location of signs on private buildings or structures.
(8) To regulate or prohibit the use or discharge, but not possession of, firearms within the municipality or specified portions thereof, provided that an ordinance adopted under this subdivision shall be consistent with section 2295 of this title and shall not prohibit, reduce, or limit discharge at any existing sport shooting range, as that term is defined in section 5227 of Title 10.

TITLE 24
Municipal and County Government
PART II
Municipalities
CHAPTER 61. REGULATORY PROVISIONS; POLICE POWER OF MUNICIPALITIES
Subchapter XI. Miscellaneous Regulatory Powers
§ 2295. Authority of municipal and county governments to regulate firearms, ammunition, hunting, fishing and trapping
Except as otherwise provided by law, no town, city or incorporated village, by ordinance, resolution or other enactment, shall directly regulate hunting, fishing and trapping or the possession, ownership, transportation, transfer, sale, purchase, carrying, licensing or registration of traps, firearms, ammunition or components of firearms or ammunition. This section shall not limit the powers conferred upon a town, city or incorporated village under section 2291(8) of this title. The provisions of this section shall supersede any inconsistent provisions of a municipal charter. (Added 1987, No. 178 (Adj. Sess.), eff. May 9, 1988.)
 
I have been trying to figure this out. I am 16 live in mass but have a second home in the lovely state of VT. My dad wants me to be able to carry. I know i can handle a firearm at 16 but can I carry concealed. Its hard to believe because I live in a MA
 
I have been trying to figure this out. I am 16 live in mass but have a second home in the lovely state of VT. My dad wants me to be able to carry. I know i can handle a firearm at 16 but can I carry concealed. Its hard to believe because I live in a MA

Here's the simple answer.

VT has NO CCW law, never has. It isn't "allowed", it's simply "not restricted". So, if you can possess it, you can CCW it.

Anyone carrying concealed in Vermont should be fairly careful, as they have "home rule" there and several of the towns (including Burlington) forbid the carrying of firearms there. You can be breaking the law randomly as you drive through the state.

Pure unadulterated BULLSHIT!

Name the towns, and know EVERY one of them is in violation of the State Constitution. Also, know I work close enough to Burlington (Colchester is where I work) that I have to drive through portions of it every day I work.

The POS Socialist Mayor of Burlington has tried to get a CCW law, and every time he does, the state laughs at him. The Governor is very pro-gun, even goes shopping at Gun Shows from time to time.
 
sorry to resurrect an old thread just trying to get some firm info re: VT and concealed carry. I am heading up to burlington and stowe. i have my CC permit in NH. WHat do i need to know about CC in VT? thanks
 
The Maine Exception

None of the new england states are must notify.

Except (four years after you wrote that) Maine started requiring it when carrying on the constitution:

An Act To Authorize the Carrying of Concealed Handguns without a Permit

Sec. 4. 25 MRSA §2003-A is enacted to read:

§2003-A. Duty to inform law enforcement

When an individual who is carrying a concealed handgun pursuant to the authority of this chapter and who does not have a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun that has been issued as provided in this chapter first comes into contact with any law enforcement officer of this State or its political subdivisions or a federal law enforcement officer during the course of any arrest, detainment or routine traffic stop, that individual shall immediately inform that law enforcement officer of the fact that the individual is carrying a concealed handgun.

Emphasis mine.

Of course you had no way of knowing that ahead of time.

I just don't want some goober to read what you wrote ages ago and get jacked up while speeding on I-95.
 
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