.45 ACP supplies drying up?

[Optimistic Paranoid]

Crossposted from the DTI-PGH list . . .

13 Mar 06

Advice from a local gun retailer:

"Stock up on 45ACP! I routinely order from four, major suppliers. I've been told that 5K is all I can get with any one order. That amount usually doesn't last me more than a few days. Pentagon is grabbing up the rest. Pretty much the same situation with .223. Get a supply while you can!"

Comment: Exact specifications on the new military pistol are still not completely clear, but caliber has been established, and there is apparently no further debate on this subject. It will be 45ACP! The Pentagon is ordering
ammunition accordingly, and the government's own ammunition-producing facilities have been nearly all decommissioned. The one plant remaining, Lake
City, can't begin to supply all the small-arms ammunition currently needed, so the Pentagon is leaning on private producers, domestic and foreign, to make up for the shortfall. The wise among the rest of us should take the hint!

/John

and

Dear Friends:

As John Farnam warned some weeks ago, "cheap" 230 FMJ .45ACP is drying-up.

Ammunitionstore.com no longer has W-W, Remington or even MFS.

1K of 230 FMJ that was selling for around $200-250 (Federal American Eagle) is now closer to $300 at ammoman.com

Midway.com still has some aluminum-cased Blaser for $195, + S&H.

My local Wal Mart is selling W-W 230 FMJ in 100 round bulk packs for $20.xx, but they are OUT. (They had some yesterday.)

Natchez.com still has Remington-UMC 230 FMJ for $8.88/box, or $179.xx per K. I just ordered another K for $204.00 including S&H and $0.84 NRA Round up.

Buy NOW.

Doc

 

[Optimistic Paranoid]

At this point I'm wondering if the various ammo plants start ramping up to supply .45 ACP to the military, whether this will lead to shortages of other calibers like .40 S&W as they convert production lines over to the .45.

Regards
John

 

[Martlet]

I picked up a few boxes of 100 WW at Wally World last week for 20 bucks. I thought that was still a decent deal.

 

[C-pher]

I reaload all my .45.

 

[Martlet]

I reaload all my .45.

My reloader is supposed to be here tomorrow. You'll either be seing a post cheering about how much I enjoy it, or a post in classifieds selling my guns because I blew my hands off.

 

[crak]

I think I need to get into the ammo business.

 

[Nickle]

I am.

45 ACP isn't drying up.

Cheap MILSurp 45 ACP is drying up.

We sell Reman'ed 45 ACP. Lead bullets $8.25/50 or $38.00/250, Jacketed bullets $11.50/50 or $53.00/250

 

[LORD of WAR]

dicks sporting goods latest flyer - remington umc .45/.40 = $9.48 per box of 50 rounds...and they dont seem to have a shortage

 

[rscalzo]

Costs

Cost of ammo aren't going up as much as the cost of delivery. Fuel prices are going to have an effect on everything this summer.

 

[Coyote33]

So, does that mean 9mm is getting more plentiful or cheaper?

 

[Nickle]

9mm's are fairly cheap and readily available already.

Cheap MILSurp 9mm is out there, but prices for commercial or reman are so low, why bother.

 

[Garys]

www.ammoman.com (won't ship to MA) has a ton of it. Nickle seems to have a really good handle on the situation.

If the military is going back to 45ACP, that is going to drive up prices in the short run. I seem to remember reading that the military is reissuing 1911 to troops in Iraq. They are also issuing M14s to some units, but I digress. Some FBI agents are using 1911s as well. All of that is driving up demand, which until production catches up may mean shortages and price increases. Eventually that will stabilise, although probably at a higher price.

Gary

 

[Nickle]

The Army is NOT reissuing the old 1911A1 to the troops. They have bought some new production 1911 style guns for issue to SOCOM units only. The normal Army units are still using the M9. There has been talk of going to 40 S&W from the 9mm, though. But, like the 6.8 Rem SPC, it won't happen soon, if ever.

That will make a slight shortage of ammo, since ammo has been outsourced for many years (since at least WWI).

 

[TY43215]

Boy if ammo is drying up, I'm in trouble. I am down to 3000 loaded and 6000 bullets. Time to stock up

 

[Coyote33]

I guess ammo shortages are nothing new, but look at those prices!

 

[drgrant]

Mega old thread bumpage.