M96 Mauser for CMP? Or M38 better?

[Mountain]

Ran into a M96 with an absolutely pristine bore. It looks like the bore in my Krieger barreled AR- ok, almost LOL. Metal overall very good, walnut stock has a few minor dings that would probably steam out if I so desired. Nice figure in the walnut- would probably be a beautiful stock with minimal work. All numbers match. Asking price $499, I'll offer less.

Are these GTG for vintage military competition, or would I be better served by the shorter M38? I'm already loading for 6.5mm, so plenty of projectiles to chose from in my usual stock.

Any input appreciated!

 

[majspud]

I had an 1899 M96 Swede by Mauser Obendorf. Tight 6.50 perfect bore. It shot the boat-tails off any other Mauser in my collection putting 18 rounds into the 10 ring and 2 touching first time I shot it.

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[Mountain]

Nice to hear. This is the typical Carl Gustafs. If it were a Husky I might have just bought it on the spot...

 

[mac1911]

im still kicking myself for not buying any of the sedish mausers SAm Global was offering few years back. I watch the snipers sell out then the better conditioned ones then they went out of business....

I think i would go with the longer sight radius.
Look at the results from last years match the swedes are up in the mix.

 

[mac1911]

well i guess not as many for
Competitor (Comp Num) Hometown Vintage Military Rifle Type VM PS VM PR VM SS Aggregate
1 Williams, Brian (106392) Granby, MA K-31 Swiss 100 - 8 100 - 4 94 - 1 294 - 13
2 Richardson, Sammy, PVT, USAR (23149) Helena, AL Swiss Straight Pull 100 - 4 97 - 3 96 - 4 293 - 11
3 Porter, Farrell (21354) Pontiac, IL Persian Mauser 8x57mm 100 - 6 99 - 3 91 - 0 290 - 9
4 Scarpino, Franco (11679) Pembroke, MA M1917 99 - 5 97 - 3 90 - 0 286 - 8
5 Pauls, Eric (171252) Fenton, MO U.S. 1917 100 - 4 99 - 3 87 - 0 286 - 7
6 Davis, Kenneth (11977) Lucasville, OH M1903 98 - 5 99 - 4 88 - 0 285 - 9
7 Wayner, Josh (70692) Holland, MI Mauser 95 - 2 97 - 1 93 - 2 285 - 5
8 Quillen, Brian (12855) St. Johns, MI 1917 95 - 1 97 - 2 93 - 0 285 - 3
9 Slocum, Matthew, CIV (136203) Springfield, PA M1917 98 - 5 98 - 3 88 - 1 284 - 9
10 Nowicke, Richard (109933) Beverly Hills, MI 1917 100 - 4 96 - 2 88 - 0 284 - 6
11 Stonecipher, Larry (11634) Ada, OK Ross 99 - 4 95 - 0 90 - 0 284 - 4
12 Rollins, John, CIV (17806) Athens, GA 1917 98 - 3 97 - 1 89 - 0 284 - 4
13 Peters, Richard (228521) Wilton, CT M1917 99 - 2 95 - 1 90 - 0 284 - 3
14 Bradley, Chris (53434) Northfield, VT P17 95 - 2 98 - 3 90 - 2 283 - 7
15 Dean, Thomas, CIV (5763) Perry, MI Swedish Mauser 95 - 1 98 - 2 90 - 0 283 - 3
16 Bair, Johnnie, Maj, USAF Ret (12230) Worland, WY 1917 Enfield 98 - 1 95 - 0 90 - 1 2
2017

 

[Mountain]

I think Perry Vintage has been won by Swedish Mausers in the past. Wasn't sure if the M96 or the shorter M38. Reading a little more, seems like most prefer the M96 for less recoil and maybe better accuracy. Really surprised at the bore condition of this one- very nice.

I have Brian's load that he uses in his K31. I know for certain mine is an OK shooter- 10-ring but just barely. Brian is an excellent shot, but it takes a great rifle to hit clean on prone and prone rapid. Not sure if a different load would run much better. The 1917 from Majspud is a tack driver, so others in the Vintage class can be for fun.

Looking at these scores, damn do I need offhand practice. I've shot as high as 92. If I could only do that consistently...

 

[mac1911]

I think Perry Vintage has been won by Swedish Mausers in the past. Wasn't sure if the M96 or the shorter M38. Reading a little more, seems like most prefer the M96 for less recoil and maybe better accuracy. Really surprised at the bore condition of this one- very nice.

I have Brian's load that he uses in his K31. I know for certain mine is an OK shooter- 10-ring but just barely. Brian is an excellent shot, but it takes a great rifle to hit clean on prone and prone rapid. Not sure if a different load would run much better. The 1917 from Majspud is a tack driver, so others in the Vintage class can be for fun.

Looking at these scores, damn do I need offhand practice. I've shot as high as 92. If I could only do that consistently...

ahh yes if only....as i said before 95-99s then anything below 90 in off hand is not going to win anything. I will be practicing more off hand although with the daisy and dry fire exercise over the winter.

 

[NavelOfficer]

I don't think it matters in the least, be it a 96, 38 or even a 94.
Sometime back I saw an Obendorf m96 over at Ron's Guns in East Lyme, CT (it was marked 8mm...? It is a 6.5x55mm!).
I have an extra m96b that doesn't get used very much, but I'm not anxious to sell it. I tend to use the sporterized m96 with the little 2x EER scope, so I can see what I'm shooting at a bit better.
The iron sights on the m96 are minimal in my opinion, but if you have decent eyes, they'll work.

 

[daekken]

ahh yes if only....as i said before 95-99s then anything below 90 in off hand is not going to win anything. I will be practicing more off hand although with the daisy and dry fire exercise over the winter.

What are the best drills/exercises to improve offhand? Mine's been slowly getting better but still in the toilet. Other than reloading, throwing some tung oil on the special's stock, and maybe assembling a lower, looking for projects/tasks through the winter.

 

[majspud]

Here's the target. Looks like I exaggerated a little - there were 5 nines. This was the first time I ever shot it, using PRVI SP at 100 yards.

 

[mac1911]

What are the best drills/exercises to improve offhand? Mine's been slowly getting better but still in the toilet. Other than reloading, throwing some tung oil on the special's stock, and maybe assembling a lower, looking for projects/tasks through the winter.

simple practice...for me its shooting 50 yards with my daisy 853 in my yard. Dry fire works aslo. put a 3/8 dot on a wall about 20' and just work on your position and trigger pull

http://www.accurateshooter.com/shooting-skills/standing-position-shooting-technique/

 

[Mountain]

Here's the target. Looks like I exaggerated a little - there were 5 nines. This was the first time I ever shot it, using PRVI SP at 100 yards.

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That's a nice one, majspud, with good accuracy.

I passed on the one I was looking at. At 2nd look, bolt was matching but that's about it. Seller and I were no closer than $100 apart, so I'm sure that I'll either find a nicer example later or over time this one might come down.

 

[majspud]

I let it go last year to work on the 10 Mausers.

T

 

[daekken]

simple practice...for me its shooting 50 yards with my daisy 853 in my yard. Dry fire works aslo. put a 3/8 dot on a wall about 20' and just work on your position and trigger pull

http://www.accurateshooter.com/shooting-skills/standing-position-shooting-technique/

Thanks. While my offhand is no great shakes, my pistol is even worse.
I think buying a .22 has made me worse. Two weeks ago I hit 20/22 plates at 25 yards with the Mk III. I was atrocious today with P226. I think it's made me lazy.

 

[mac1911]

Thanks. While my offhand is no great shakes, my pistol is even worse.
I think buying a .22 has made me worse. Two weeks ago I hit 20/22 plates at 25 yards with the Mk III. I was atrocious today with P226. I think it's made me lazy.

I can't give you any pistol tips. I was just getting into the high 80% range shooting cmp service pistol course of fire for fun. I have not shot pistol in years. Other than some 3-7 yard "defensive" plinking. Although same principle. You really can't fight the wobble.