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MA Large Capacity Weapons Roster
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Still in effect. So are many LTC-B licenses until they expire. It also defines what FID holders can not possess.
Len,
I knew I could count on you. The question stemmed from a discussion with some people (who shall remain nameless) about large capacity vs non-large capacity firearms.
I knew I could count on you. The question stemmed from a discussion with some people (who shall remain nameless) about large capacity vs non-large capacity firearms.
I prefer "standard capacity vs tiny capacity."
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Google testimony by Bill Ruger. The number was his idea when he testified in front of congress.
They really meant to put 1.0 but someone screwed up when typing it up.
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Wow! Had no idea.
There is a video of Bill Ruger testifying on this.
There are also a number of other situations in which the difference in a firearm's classification (large capacity or not) can be relevant as well. For example, large capacity semi-automatic rifles and shotguns are subject specific requirements (and penalties) per c. 140 s. 131C(c) as to how they may be transported in a vehicle. There are also different penalties for storage violations (C. 140 s. 131L) associated with large capacity weapons, and machine guns, (read as higher) than for non-large capacity firearms.
10 was way more (read double) than what most (centerfire) bolt and lever action held. Prior to the wondernine era, it was on par with or more than most semi-automatic handguns held as well. 10 rounds was more or less a standard capacity for most .22 pistols and a good number of magazine fed .22 rifles held (many, such as Marlins were less, unless you bought an accessory magazine or an HC model, tube feds ostensibly had a much greater potential capacity)
The tone that Ruger was writing from is interesting. While I don't like the position that he advocated for, his Mini series rifles, in their standard (fixed stock/non-pistol grip configuration) flew under the 1993 Crime bill and other name/type bans, and feature bans that have been implemented so far. That includes bans like Connecticut's which have specifically named functionally comparable, similarly featured rifles (e.g. Saigas, Kel Tecs, etc...) as assault weapons.
Those were outliers. Take the Lee Enfield, for example (which was initially designed for military use). That is a 10 round rifle. The military contemporaries to the Lee Enfield (P-14, Various Mauser based platforms, Arisakas, Mosin Nagant, 1903 Springfield, M1917, Carcano M91, Berthier) were predominantly 5 round rifles with the exception of the M1917 and Carcano M91 which were 6 round rifles. Berthier variants were either 3 or 5 round rifles.
The Remington Model 8 and 81 rifles, as standard catalog items, had 5 round magazines. With the Model 8, the larger, detachable magazines were a patented aftermarket product intended to be sold to law enforcement. The design was later licensed to Remington which incorporated it into the Remington Model 81 Special Police, of which relatively few were sold.
The Thompson and BAR were machineguns, which while offered on the civilian market were not frequently sold. Later semi-automatic variations made their way to the market.
I concede that the there were some (like the M1 Carbine [originally a military firearm but later sold as surplus and manufactured commercially] and Browning Hi Power, among others) but those were outside the norm.
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