Keep tossing the F word around and you're gonna be banned. I'm over that crap
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It was just a question. I've been reading some of this thread and was just curious about what they should have done with that situation. Definitely not an easy one to handle. Like one of you said , it takes balls to go against that b***. She's out to get us all. Period.
1) the press here will take every opportunity to slant and take out of context any story to make it against us gun owners
2)i haven't read all 50 something pages of this thread
3)a ffl in this state has to really believe in what they do to put up with all the crap that they have to put up with
4) the admins of this site have faith in this ffl
I will visit and shop at the gun parlor based on these facts.
In my mind, whether TGP acted with or without malice, their consent decree with the AG's office makes them the equivalent of a cooperating witness wearing a wire. Now that we know they have been compromised (providing 4473s to the AG's office), they should be dead to us.
This is a good way of looking at it - they're wearing a wire.
Maybe you want to give them a pass for the Ch 5 thing - at the very least they can plead ignorance(a stretch). But the 4473s, not sure how anyone can get past that. You can say Mora has access to MIRCS records so what's the difference, but if that's the case why does she want them? Why the two orders Col. Jessup? Think about it, there's more info on a 4473 than what gets entered into MIRCS - there's a reason she's collecting them. She wants a few people in her pocket that she can use to roll up on another dealer she can turn, and make a similar arrangement. I wish that last sentence was about drug dealers instead of fully legal licensed firearms dealers.
Don't feed the beast.
you don't roll your CIs with big potatoes, start small, call in a few favors, return favors, expand "relationship" with stick/carrot now that rat has been actualized.
I doubt that 4473 will be the next emergency, she's got more irons in fire and it's too complicated for sheep to grasp, she needs pizazz and more of it as election gets closer.
This is what Mora proven itself in:
1. Manufacture fake crisis where there is none to serve her timing, to advance her pursuit for higher offices. (7/20 edict, bumpfire bill, ammo by mail)
2. She steamrolled whatever democracy left in this blue state by invoking emergency to suspend normal rules to pull bill, to issue edicts blindsiding even moonbat legislation.
3. Game the system to her advantage by refusing FOIA on bullshit "ongoing investigation" clause. Tip of the iceberg.
4. Get shady deals like "voluntary" 4473 release under threat of $20'000 fine. Tip of the iceberg.
5. Get cover from useful idiots ... just watch how much coverage of ammo by mail scandal lends more air time, time it as percentage and the weekly "Linsky" bill that suddenly got a whole lot of traction.
and lies, and dubious ethic even by current standards, and so on ...
Mora is a ****ing mafia, easily one of the most powerful figures in the state since homo (genious), homo (party) legislation bent to her will as did Rino gubbernor.
TGP can play the quiet game and think that it would just go away. Like I said before, I don't care about apologies or who works the counter at their shop. What I do care is that we got a rat with visible ties to Mora and there is a whole lot of unknown about the extent of their relationship or how far they would stoop to keep their well invested shop going.
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Absolutely.
To all reading this: Give this some thought:
- Perfectly legal for an FFL to transfer ANY (non-AW) handgun frame to a MA LTC. No "list" compliance required.
- 4473s show such frame transactions.
- Some in LE/AG are not happy with this ability to legally circumvent the List & AG Reg requirements.
- FA-10s only show complete gun transfers and thus won't show a mere frame being transferred.
- What do you think the AG can do with that info from TGP? Standby for another press conference on how the law is being ignored and more letters to shut it down. All thanks to "evidence willingly provided" by TGP!!
While they’re calling everything a loophole, we might as well refer to this as the “AG Loophole.” It gives it a more nefarious tone. Information extortion at its finest.
Keep tossing the F word around and you're gonna be banned. I'm over that crap
Can I suggest when we want to utilize the F word we now use Fairy instead F***? Example the guy is a Fairy Face....or simply the guy is a Fairy... Just a thought.
If you are just picking a word for 1:1 replacement I would suggest feak. Fairy COULD get slanted by an outside quoter to make it appear like its a bunch of gay bashing. However feak (A lock or curl of hair) is not a common word with an alternate (derogatory) meaning and it is an approximate homophone?
Ah yes I see your point....Perhaps we refrain from using any code word. Or we go with Happy...He's a Happy face.
Hey FEAK FACE, admit your FEAKING suggestion was trash and my FEAKING suggestion is genius. Yeah MOTHERFEAKER I went there.
Absolutely.
To all reading this: Give this some thought:
- Perfectly legal for an FFL to transfer ANY (non-AW) handgun frame to a MA LTC. No "list" compliance required.
- 4473s show such frame transactions.
- Some in LE/AG are not happy with this ability to legally circumvent the List & AG Reg requirements.
- FA-10s only show complete gun transfers and thus won't show a mere frame being transferred.
- What do you think the AG can do with that info from TGP? Standby for another press conference on how the law is being ignored and more letters to shut it down. All thanks to "evidence willingly provided" by TGP!!
The way i see things is that i'm already on a dozen or so lists somewhere due to my lawful behavior, Maura already knows what guns i have and how many, the gov can track my phone. The gov knows where i go on the web, The NSA prolly knows more about me than i do, basically i'm swinging in the breeze in this hostile state with all of you. Someone mentioned that they're wearing a wire, that's an understatement, all ffls in this police state are. I can only hope that they don't break down my door and shoot my dog.
Which is odd since I seem to recall them recently selling 3rd gen G19 and G17 stripped frames...
Wonder if they reported their own 4473's on those?
Um, you forgot your EZPass Transponder, they know where you are at all times as well.
I stop following the thread...I am not in Worcester area therefore a boycott is meaningless. I have very little faith on MA gun shops in general.
I live five minutes from TGP, driving past it every day, and it's a crying shame. Where's the next closest shop and range that deserves my business?
I live five minutes from TGP, driving past it every day, and it's a crying shame. Where's the next closest shop and range that deserves my business?