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3/27/23 Nashville School Shooting
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what a tremendous faggot. you can't red flag law your way out of lunatics and losers thinking pretending to be the other gender or quirky-insane is an escape hatch from the pressures of life, then melting down when reality nips at their heels. red flag laws are just trojan horses to pulling 2a rights from anyone criticizing the global government.
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The Weekly Reload Podcast: Examining Tennessee's 'Red Flag' Proposal & Trump's Bump Stock Defense with Bearing Arms' Cam Edwards
Host Stephen Gutowski and guest Cam Edwards discuss the politics of Tennessee's red flag proposal and Donald Trump's doubling down on support of the bump stock ban.
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Cam Edwards was on The Reload Podcast discussing that Red Flag bill. Apparently it has many of the attributes Kopel suggested were missing from most such laws, although it’s still ex parte. It provides for a mental health evaluation, a public defender, mental health treatment, etc.
Many such bills started that way and got stripped down to just gun seizure laws by amendments. A Red Flag law with proper civil protections and mental health services is unaffordable and legislatures know it.
NY State Police have run out of resources just to to track and store seized guns and want $10s of Millions more funding - and they provide no public defender or mental health services.
seems like a lot of work when just playing into statistics like race and political party affiliation are staggeringly good predictors of criminalityThe Weekly Reload Podcast: Examining Tennessee's 'Red Flag' Proposal & Trump's Bump Stock Defense with Bearing Arms' Cam Edwards
Host Stephen Gutowski and guest Cam Edwards discuss the politics of Tennessee's red flag proposal and Donald Trump's doubling down on support of the bump stock ban.
Cam Edwards was on The Reload Podcast discussing that Red Flag bill. Apparently it has many of the attributes Kopel suggested were missing from most such laws, although it’s still ex parte. It provides for a mental health evaluation, a public defender, mental health treatment, etc.
Many such bills started that way and got stripped down to just gun seizure laws by amendments. A Red Flag law with proper civil protections and mental health services is unaffordable and legislatures know it.
NY State Police have run out of resources just to to track and store seized guns and want $10s of Millions more funding - and they provide no public defender or mental health services.
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A study of CA Red Flag subjects found Blacks overrepresented in the GVPOs (Gun Violence Protection Order) served at 10.3% (population 5.7%) and Blacks were more unwilling to initiate an GVPO than other races (35% unwilling vs 22%).
“The ERPO-related court records showed:
- No Black or Hispanic/Latinx individuals who were subject to an ERPO had family or household members submit the petition.
- Compared with other racial/ethnic groups, Black and Hispanic/Latinx individuals subject to an ERPO were more often arrested at the time the order was served. This finding was partly explained by the higher proportion of assault-related (compared to self-directed) threats among these groups.
-Black respondents were also the least likely to have documented firearm access and legal representation at the ERPO hearing.”
Funny usage of “documented firearms access” in stead of unlicensed possession. As expected, there a call for Equity…White Supremacy to blame.
“Ensuring that ERPOs do not reproduce racial-ethnic inequities in structurally rooted risk factors for violence and trauma will be critical to their effectiveness within a broader community safety ecosystem.”
tl;dr "we want red flag laws to take guns away from whites and asians"
MaverickNH
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The public has a right to see the Nashville shooter’s writings
Local and state officials say the shooter's manifesto was just "ramblings" and not worth releasing. Let the public be the judge of that.
reason.com
”This isn't the first time officials tried to make a crime and its attendant concerns go away by suppressing a criminal's thoughts. After Brenton Harrison Tarrant committed a 2019 mass murder in Christchurch, New Zealand, the country's government attempted to memory-hole his eco-fascist manifesto. Arguing the document was "deliberately constructed to inspire further murder and terrorism," New Zealand officials prosecuted their citizens for sharing it and leaned on private companies elsewhere to follow suit.
But analysts found the manifesto enlightening in terms of ideological evolution and terrorist tactics. "The manifesto specifically focuses on the anti-immigrant aspects of eco-fascism, dedicating at least an entire page to espousing what it calls 'Green Nationalism,'" wrote Alejandro Beutel for National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism. Others compared the author's media tactics to those of ISIS or looked for indications of links among far-right extremists around the world.”
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Manifesto still not released?
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I can only imagine the amount of red tape involved in forging a manifesto, especially on the federal level. Give them time
the CIA killed a president 60 years ago and still hasn't admitted it. you think the fed is prioritizing getting a "manifesto" through chatgpt that pins the blame on the dastardly right wing is a priority?
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At least tell us why the Manifesto is still not released.
xtry51
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Because it was a rant about how all conservatives need to die.
But, but,.... That does not fit the narrative
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You all should Google stochastic terrorism. This is a perfect example
Lowbird
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Really hope Crowder has the Kraken on speed dial.
I don't think the parents are going to be happy about this. They were the ones who have kept it from being released.
I don't think the parents are going to be happy about this. They were the ones who have kept it from being released.
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Is it wrong to say I would rather see what kind of mental health handling and drug prescriptions this kid had?
Thanks.
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Thanks.
Paul
mav
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Kid was clearly mentally ill and racist against whites to boot.
Too bad IT didn't wash their mouth out with buckshot, could have saved some lives.
Too bad IT didn't wash their mouth out with buckshot, could have saved some lives.
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That's it? The way they were guarding it, I was expecting something worse.
Crowder is live now, he said they are working to get more data at this point. It left 20 journals worth of writing, a Suicide note and videos.
I heard that too. I am not sure why they would be against it being released unless there is more that Crowder doesnt have.
xtry51
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Zero surprises, but great work by Crowder getting this out in the open.
I'm sure the 20 journals and rest of manifesto are all full of basically the DNC's platform.
I'm sure the 20 journals and rest of manifesto are all full of basically the DNC's platform.
Who could have seen this coming? All the shills and bots are going apeshit over this one saying it's fake all over the internet.
My position is that nothing will change and the American people will continue to prostrate to the ever girthening dildo of tranny marxism.
My position is that nothing will change and the American people will continue to prostrate to the ever girthening dildo of tranny marxism.
Parents are afraid of being found 'civilly responsible' in lawsuits from the deceased families. That they knew more than they were saying and didn't do anything about it, or the perception thereof.
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VetteGirlMA
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What was released is straight out of the socialist handbook. She wasn't killing kids or white people, she was wiping out the bourgeois class of white people in nuclear families. That whole thing was 'socialist speak' for white people who have good families.
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