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.223 vs. 5.56, explained

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Nice briefing on how the two cartridges compare:

http://www.winchester.com/lawenforcement/news/newsview.aspx?storyid=11

Paul Nowak
5/4/2001
.223 Rem VS 5.56mm

There are a lot of questions about these two cartridges. Many people think they are identical - merely different designations for commercial and military. The truth is that, although somewhat similar, they are not the same and you should know the differences before buying either cartridge.


The cartridge casings for both calibers have basically the same length and exterior dimensions.
The 5.56 round, loaded to Military Specification, typically has higher velocity and chamber pressure than the .223 Rem.
The 5.56 cartridge case may have thicker walls, and a thicker head, for extra strength. This better contains the higher chamber pressure. However, a thicker case reduces powder capacity, which is of concern to the reloader.
The 5.56mm and .223 Rem chambers are nearly identical. The difference is in the "Leade". Leade is defined as the portion of the barrel directly in front of the chamber where the rifling has been conically removed to allow room for the seated bullet. It is also more commonly known as the throat. Leade in a .223 Rem chamber is usually .085". In a 5.56mm chamber the leade is typically .162", or almost twice as much as in the 223 Rem chamber.
You can fire .223 Rem cartridges in 5.56mm chambers with this longer leade, but you will generally have a slight loss in accuracy and velocity over firing the .223 round in the chamber with the shorter leade it was designed for.
Problems may occur when firing the higher-pressure 5.56mm cartridge in a .223 chamber with its much shorter leade. It is generally known that shortening the leade can dramatically increase chamber pressure. In some cases, this higher pressure could result in primer pocket gas leaks, blown cartridge case heads and gun functioning issues.
The 5.56mm military cartridge fired in a .223 Rem chamber is considered by SAAMI (Small Arm and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute) to be an unsafe ammunition combination.


Before buying either of these two types of ammunition, always check your gun to find what caliber it is chambered for, then buy the appropriate ammunition. Most 5.56mm rounds made have full metal jacket bullets. Performance bullets - soft points, hollow points, Ballistic Silvertips, etc. - are loaded in .223 Rem cartridges. Firing a .223 Rem cartridge in a 5.56mm-chambered gun is safe and merely gives you slightly reduced velocity and accuracy. However we do not recommend, nor does SAAMI recommend, firing a 5.56mm cartridge in a gun chambered for the .223 Rem as the shorter leade can cause pressure-related problems.

Winchester Law Enforcement Ammunition East Alton Illinois
 
Which of the commercial brands (American Eagle, S&B, etc) sell 5.56 ammo? Or is everything in the commercial market basically .223?
 
The what?

The Wylde chamber is sized between the SAAMI .223 Remington chamber and the MIL-Spec 5.56 NATO chamber. So supposedly you get almost as much accuracy as you do out of the .223 chamber, but can still fire the military 5.56 rounds safely.

I'm not too up on who uses what, but I believe Rock River Arms and Fulton Armory at least both use a Wylde chamber on their stuff.
 
The Wylde chamber is sized between the SAAMI .223 Remington chamber and the MIL-Spec 5.56 NATO chamber. So supposedly you get almost as much accuracy as you do out of the .223 chamber, but can still fire the military 5.56 rounds safely.

I'm not too up on who uses what, but I believe Rock River Arms and Fulton Armory at least both use a Wylde chamber on their stuff.
Thanks!
I was thinking as much but wanted to make sure.
Looks like another option that I need to consider when I finally break down and buy my upper.
 
Does anyone know the Spacing is on WOA Varmint Chambers?

White Oak Armament said:
The White Oak Armament .223 varmint barrel is constructed with the same care as our famous Match Rifle barrel. The chamber is cut using a WOA designed reamer that was developed to give excellent accuracy and reliability with a wide variety of varmint bullets loaded to mag length!

· Choice of 18, 20, 24, or 26 inch
· Available in your choice of twists (see below)
· Exclusive WOA Varmint Chamber
· Comes with FITTED manifold (26" also comes with correct gas tube)
· 1 inch under the handguard, then .850 from manifold to muzzle
· Custom contours available at request
 
One of us should make a tool to cut a larger Leade into a .223 barrel.

The maximum length from base of the rim to the full-bore diameter of the bullet is the same on both rounds (47.12mm) so the issue isn't so much the length of the leade in the chamber as the pressure the chambers are rated for and the ammunition generates.

Military ammunition (5.56x45mm Nato) can be loaded to higher chamber pressures with a longer leade than SAMMI specifications. This pressure further increases when you shorten the leade for a .223 Remington chamber and you can end up with a chamber pressure thats exceeding 5.56x45mm Nato specs when loading a round designed for mil-spec chambers into a SAMMI chamber.

The whole sittuation gets worse when you add "Match-Grade" chambers to the mix as they achieve higher accuracy by specifically cutting the chamber to the bare minimum allowed to meet SAMMI specifications.

The Wylde chamber uses an intermediate leade and a higher pressure rating to ensure that it can maintain accuracy with a .223 Remington round and not exceed it's pressure rating with a 5.56x45mm Nato round.
 
My RRA has a Wylde Chamber and seems to be fine with a 223 round in it here is one of my 5 shot groups at 100yds I took a pic of last year, damn that flyer to the left
 

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